Ties Brands

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  1. ernest

    ernest Senior member

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    A friend from Atlanta sent me many ties today (thanks Jerry).

    I didn't know most of the brands. Do you know them?

    - John Comfort

    - Gieves and hawkes

    - Kilgour, French and Stanbury

    - Drakes's

    - Michelson
     
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    John Comfort make good albeit machinemade ties -- they make or until recently made the ties for your favorite, Hildeetch.

    Drakes is one of the best makers of ties in the world -- I'd say one of the top two or three in England. Also very classic in general.

    Gieves and Hawkes and KFS are the names of two Savile Row tailors. They don't make ties; someone else does for them or for their licenseholder. Probably decent quality.

    Michelsons was a good British tiemaker. The recent stuff I've seen from them is complete shit, although the old stuff is nice. They were bought by gigantic silk company Mantero. Michelsons was also the parent company of the wonderful tiemakers Holliday & Brown, a personal favorite.
     
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    Drakes ties are awesome.
     
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    H&K tie sold in France are made in France (it is Hilditch)

    Hollyday & brown = i have never heard about them

    Shit, i have no culture .

    Where did you learn all these stuffs about ties? A book? An article? Experience?
     
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    Some of their ties in the Paris shop are made in France, others in the UK -- I saw this myself last year. All the ties in the Paris shop are handmade. I am not sure, thus, if John Comfort made the handmade England-made ties in the Paris shop.

    How do I know all this? Perhaps all will become clear in December...
     
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    You are a tie seller in you rspare time or lawyer for a tie company .??

    The colored hair asshole of the shop in Paris told me ties were handmade in Paris and that he was chosing the fabrics (he likes glorifying himself = he told me the girl welling wasn't his collegue nut he was her chief.)
     
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    Well, the French-made handmade ties in the shop might be made in Paris for all I know. I thought they were pretty good quality too.

    I'd like to stride down to Hildeetch with you when I get to Paris. I'll stand you a cafe creme at Angelina afterwards. Yeah, yeah, it's dingy and touristy. But it's kinda cool.
     
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    (ernest @ June 13 2005,17:17) The colored hair asshole of the shop in Paris told me ties were handmade  in Paris and that he was chosing the fabrics (he likes glorifying himself = he told me the girl welling wasn't his collegue nut he was her chief.)
    Well, the French-made handmade ties in the shop might be made in Paris for all I know. Â I thought they were pretty good quality too. Â I'd like to stride down to Hildeetch with you when I get to Paris. Â I'll stand you a cafe creme at Angelina afterwards. Â Yeah, yeah, it's dingy and touristy. Â But it's kinda cool.
    I guess H&K ties in Paris are much better than the ones in sold London (thinker and handmade at least). I don't drink coffee. We could rather eat in a cheap chinese restaurant.
     
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    Drake's makes beautiful 50oz ties - I have 2-3 of them. Kilgour and Gieves are famous Savile Row houses that have diversified into shirts, ties and other accessories.

    I think John Comfort makes the ties for Hilditch and Ede.

    Panzer
     
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    Shoot, now you tell me: I saw a beautiful Drake tie in the Netherlands two weeks ago, brown and cream, and did not buy it because I didn't recognize the label and wasn't sure of the quality..
     
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    IMO Drakes, along with Charles Hill (makers of T&A'a ties at one time; not sure of present) are the top two English tiemakers. The best book about ties that I have read about ties was written by a Frenchman with a bit of a bais toward Charvet and Hermes. It is a lovely book, but is poorly bound; mine is falling apart. See: http://www.amazon.com/exec....=glance
     
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    I'd rank Holliday and Brown at least as good as Charles Hill. HB ties are also self-tipped, which I believe CH aren't. T&A allegedly have their own tie-making factory for a few years. Allegedly. Whoever makes the Hilditch & Key Finest Silk - Hand Made collection is up there as well. One of the best ties I own.

    Ernest, I'll take a pass on the cheap chinese. Maybe a sandwich grec frites (because I like it the lamb) or an orange pressee at La Mosquee de Paris?
     
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    Come on, at least dare him to walk across the pÃ[​IMG]riphÃ[​IMG]rique. Or better yet, past the zone 5. [​IMG]
     
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    I am not a (Jacamo) jockey nor a towel (handler) nor a sand (wich).

    What about a QUICK?

    LA Guy: Have I not warned you against racial ephitets? There, now you look like you've really gone insane. To everyone else, sorry I didn't pick up on this earlier, but in the future, could you please edit ernest when quoting him so that I don't have to edit your posts as well?
     
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    Originally Posted by RJMan,June 14 2005,20:29
    I'd rank Holliday and Brown at least as good as Charles Hill. Â HB ties are also self-tipped, which I believe CH aren't. Â T&A allegedly have their own tie-making factory for a few years. Â Allegedly. Â Whoever makes the Hilditch & Key Finest Silk - Hand Made collection is up there as well. Â One of the best ties I own. Ernest, I'll take a pass on the cheap chinese. Â Maybe a sandwich grec frites (because I like it the lamb) or an orange pressee at La Mosquee de Paris?
    I am not a c**** jockey nor a towel **** nor a sand n****. What about a QUICK?
    dude, that's beyond the pale. ca se dit pas. Â where the hell did you learn those words?
     

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