Tie knot.

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  1. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

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    Dear everyone,

    I saw a tie knot that I rather liked last time in a magazine. It was tied in a very large knot with an English spread collar. It seemed a very eccentric Anglo type of look.

    Does anyone know how to tie this knot? Also does the size of the tie matter? Thank you.
     


  2. davei

    davei Senior member

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    Probably a full windsor knot: http://www2.latech.edu/~bmagee....not.htm Works best with long, thin ties (thickness, not width) that don't taper too sharply. Â Not too many ties these days fit the bill - the four in hand is the most popular knot, so you may find most ties to either be too thick or too short (with all the turns, you need alot of tie.) You can kind of fake the look of a full windsor if you do a half windsor (should be on the same site above) but use a thick, wide tie (think 1970s).
     


  3. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

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    Davei,

    Yes it was the Windsor knot. Apparently I tried it with an Etro tie of mine, and it didn't work out that well. But then a Jean Paul Gaultier tiw worked. Your theory of various tie sizes was correct.

    Tradition dictates the Windsor should be with a spread collar but I tried it with a cutaway collar, and it looked quite good. I suppose rules were meant to be broken.
     


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    What sort of "image" do you think a windsor vs a half windsor vs a four-in-hand conveys to people?
     


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    I thought a) cutaway collars were a(n admittedly extreme, in the literal sense) variation on the spread collar, and b) that Windsor knots were the only knot that looked good with them. At least, I can't imagine a cutaway with anything less: a four-in-hand would look overwhelmed in one.
     


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    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yep - a four-in-hand doesn't work with a cutaway collar even if the tie is really thick. It almost always comes out too conical. A half or full Windsor is the only way to go.
     


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