Thoughts on suit supply overcoat and colour choice

[Blake Stitched Blues]

I'm not sure what you mean. This is a set-in sleeve topcoat. I said I think the S&M one looks better than the Suitsupply.

Here's S&M

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Here's just one of the many coats I've already posted on your request

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Looks pretty similar to me.

Yes, you added in the pictures to post #26 after I replied.

I don't like the coat pictured above with jeans and I'd like it even less once it was buttoned up.

The Prussian collared pseudo-bal Ian was wearing in your original post looks a lot better.

 

[dieworkwear]

Yes, you added in the pictures to post #26 after I replied.

I don't like the coat pictured above with jeans and I'd like it even less once it was buttoned up.

The Prussian collared pseudo-bal Ian was wearing in your original post looks a lot better.

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This coat is actually a half set-in sleeve. Same coat as this, but in a different material.

 

[Blake Stitched Blues]

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This coat is actually a half set-in sleeve. Same coat as this, but in a different material.

Yes, I know. It's why I called it a pseudo-bal. It's still a very different style than the coat the OP is asking about.

 

[dieworkwear]

Yes, I know. It's why I called it a pseudo-bal. It's still a very different style than the coat the OP is asking about.

I'll give you some pseudo-bals.

Anyway, I don't care for really flat-looking topcoats. I think the SuitSupply ones would look lame with grey flannel trousers or jeans. They look really cheap and bland. The S&M one is nice cause it has more texture. I think it would look fine with jeans and a chunky sweater. Topcoat with jeans is one of the easiest looks, IMO. Surprised anyone needs rules about this given it's the most basic, J. Crew kind of look.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I mean, that's just a bad outfit all around. I don't think it has to do with the set-in sleeves or the fact that he's wearing jeans. His coat is too tight. He's wearing a tie without a sport coat, which makes the tie look like an affectation. The cloth on his coat looks a bit flat. He's wearing his coat closed (which would still be an issue if he was wearing a Barbour). The outfit would look bad even if he was wearing grey flannel trousers.

Multiple people in the photos I posted above are wearing topcoats with set-in sleeves, including Greg and Peter. Here's three more

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I don't normally like to disagree with you but the only one of these that looks really good is the last which has the most casual coat of the lot. The other two look like English public schoolboys.

Incidentally, our favourite Japanese influencer also looks unusually bad in that coat and jeans combo posted previously - I think it's the combination of closing everything possible on the coat with rather narrow jeans and long shoes. Our favourite forum Italian-American electrician looks *a lot* better in a similar coat.

 

[dieworkwear]

I don't normally like to disagree with you

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I don't normally like to disagree with you but the only one of these that looks really good is the last which has the most casual coat of the lot. The other two look like English public schoolboys.

Incidentally, our favourite Japanese influencer also looks unusually bad in that coat and jeans combo posted previously - I think it's the combination of closing everything possible on the coat with rather narrow jeans and long shoes. Our favourite forum Italian-American electrician looks *a lot* better in a similar coat.

I think Camoshita looks great, but agree that buttoning a topcoat isn't ideal. I don't have a problem with people looking like English schoolboys, but not sure I know what that means in this specific case. It does look a bit basic and maybe even a bit "preppy" in the modern sense of the word. But I think it looks good.

I just think of it as a very J. Crew kind of look, which seems like the safest thing in the world. This feels like we're arguing over whether Nike Killshots are a bad shoe.

 

[Blake Stitched Blues]

I'll give you some pseudo-bals.

Anyway, I don't care for really flat-looking topcoats. I think the SuitSupply ones would look lame with grey flannel trousers or jeans. They look really cheap and bland. The S&M one is nice cause it has more texture. I think it would look fine with jeans and a chunky sweater. Topcoat with jeans is one of the easiest looks, IMO. Surprised anyone needs rules about this given it's the most basic, J. Crew kind of look.

Ha!

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I do think that it's not quite as simple as being a basic ***** J.Crew look. You could say the same thing about a sweater and jeans, but it's still shockingly common to see people wearing thin, 'flat' merino sweaters with denim. That doesn't look right either.

 

[dieworkwear]

Ha!

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I do think that it's not quite as simple as being a basic ***** J.Crew look. You could say the same thing about a sweater and jeans, but it's still shockingly common to see people wearing thin, 'flat' merino sweaters with denim. That doesn't look right either.

I mean, sure. Then just avoid flat merino sweaters and flat wool topcoats. Wear things with textures. Wear chunky textured knits and tweed topcoats with jeans. And don't wear things that are too tight. Problem solved.

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

The camel/wool SM is 560 gm weight - is this pretty heavy for Northeast Winter assuming a sweater and scarf underneath?

Unlikely. I mean a lot depends on the fabric composition, weave, and finish, but I would say that that is too light for the NE. Probably want more like 25-35 ounces.

A lot also depends on what you wear with it, how long you will be outside, and what sort of activities you are doing while wearing the coat. If you are just walking outside for 1 minute to your car, then 20 ounces is probably fine. If you will be engaging in physical activities where you will generate a lot of heat, then 20 ounces is probably fine.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

Unlikely. I mean a lot depends on the fabric composition, weave, and finish, but I would say that that is too light for the NE. Probably want more like 25-35 ounces.

I would say at least that much, since I have an old peacoat in the range of 32oz and it's just good enough on some of the colder days. A longer coat really makes a difference as well.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

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I think Camoshita looks great, but agree that buttoning a topcoat isn't ideal. I don't have a problem with people looking like English schoolboys, but not sure I know what that means in this specific case. It does look a bit basic and maybe even a bit "preppy" in the modern sense of the word. But I think it looks good.

I guess it's just that I really was an English public schoolboy and I find the fetishism of that class position as a lifestyle (preppy, if you want the American equivalent) a bit repulsive. My problem, perhaps.

 

[compuccesory]

I dunno guys maybe just wear a casual jacket with your casual pants if it bothers you that much.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I dunno guys maybe just wear a casual jacket with your casual pants if it bothers you that much.

You have a lot to learn about Styleforum!

 

[Salad]

I want that Abercrombie joint. They need to bring that back.

 

[cr2596]

Damn, y'all scared the OP away.

The navy or a charcoal topcoat will work for your purposes. It translates across all genres. The more texture the better, but you'll be fine regardless. No one cares if the sleeves are raglan or otherwise.

I'd go with the S&M option. I have last year's single breasted in camel. It's a nice option. Size up one, if you want to wear a light jacket or SC under it.