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Thomas Pink sale

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ambulance Chaser, Jan 5, 2005.

  1. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    Thomas Pink takes a lot of abuse on this forum, but I have to admit that I like the shirts I have seen.  Sort of a poor man's Turnbull & Asser.  I know that the quality isn't great, but is it worth $89 (the current sales price)?
     
  2. ernest

    ernest Senior member

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    no, you can have H&K for £45
     
  3. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Senior member

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    You could do better with $89.

    Saks is selling H&K for $75 on sale.
     
  4. norcaltransplant

    norcaltransplant Senior member

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    For once, I agree with Ernest. $89 is still too expensive for Pink. If you're patient, a few, nice NWT T&A will pop up on Ebay periodically. The 50-65% off Tyrhwitt shirts + $10-20 will probably buy a better shirt and a cheaper price than even the sale Pinks.
     
  5. Duveen

    Duveen Senior member

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    Hi,

    Against my better judgement, I bought a shirt at the Pink sale - it is a pink shirt with a blue/green stripe that I really liked. Fit can be altered (as with any shirt), it was made in Ireland and I decided that I can live with the plastic buttons.

    The quality is not that of Hilditch, but the fabric selection is unique. You might, maybe, be able to find a similar shirt elsewhere, but not the exact same thing.

    Moral of the story - Pink can be a guilty pleasure, but try to stick to fabrics and patterns that you are unlikely to find elsewhere if you are worried about the quality.

    Be aware, though, that all sales purchases are final at the Conn Ave store. No shoppers remorse allowed.
     
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    demeis Senior member

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    I thought that everything was only 50% off? HOw are you getting an extra 15% off? I would love to know cause i need some shirts
     
  7. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    One great thing about Pink is the variety of colors/fabrics offered. The only other quality shirtmaker I can think of with similar variety is T&A. Perhaps Hilditch has similar variety of colors in England, but I've never seen it here.

    New Pink shirts can be bought quite cheaply on EBay -- for less than $89. But, they're usually the more staid designs and colors, such as pinks or simple blues and whites.
     
  8. spinlps

    spinlps Well-Known Member

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    Second all that. It's easy to dismiss an $89 Pink shirt, but I think you need to ask fabric and pattern before doing so. Sure, a "staple" shirt from other manufacturers can be had cheaper and perhaps at higher quality. If Pink does one thing well, however, it's offering a unique array of fabric colors and patterns, especially in a French Cuff. I own several Pinks, and they're all unique FC colors / patterns as my work place allows that sort of thing. I go else where for basics, but if a fabric catches your eye, it's discounted, and you don't mind heading to the tailor after a few washes, then I say go for it. Body fit aside, I haven't had any problems with my Pinks, several of which are approaching 4 - 5 years old.
     
  9. FCS

    FCS Senior member

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    What are the construction specs of a typical Pink shirt? Do they have single-needle stitching and pearl buttons?
     
  10. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    Plastic buttons on the Pink shirts only, even what they call Super 170s, which they sell for $210 full retail. Absurd. I find most of their patterns (bold checks and stripes) very tasteless. I think T&A and even H&K have much more elegant, yet bold patterns.
     
  11. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I _think_ the 170s shirts _may_ have MOP buttons. They are the only Pink shirts that still appear to be made in Ireland, unless Pink is just using old labels. However, for a little less you can get Hilditch & Key Sea Island quality shirts, in which they seem to use 160s cotton. A good shirtmaker's cotton has much better finishing than anything Pink uses. If you like the Pink patterns and $90 + tax seems like a fair price for you, go for it. However, I personally think Banana Republic shirts are better made and cheaper, with enough funky patterns. Like Pink, they're 3rd-world made, but unlike Pink, they have MOP buttons (many do, at least).
     
  12. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    The 170s shirts I have seen recently (including the one that I own) have plastic buttons. THe 170s Pink shirts are among the worst values in the shirt market.
     
  13. Pressfan

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    I picked up three Pink shirts in Detroit over Christmas, two designated as "Finest Cotton"  or some such and the other a "Super 170".  All were made in Ireland.  In fact, virtually all the shirts there were made in Ireland with the exception of a few bold striped sport shirts which were made in Romania.  After reading previous posts, I had expected virtually all of the product to be made in third-world countries.

    Although I didn't purchase any, the ties all appeared to be made in Italy.  The last Pink tie I bought was a decade ago at Heathrow and it was made in the U.K.

    Certainly the full price is excessive, but I thought many of the patterns were tasteful and distinctive, and as noted, most could be had with button or French cuffs.  While they still couldn't be classed as a bargain, and given I didn't see any T&A or H&K on sale and the patterns were superior to what I saw in Brooks, I can't say that I'm unhappy with the shirts.  Interestingly enough, my recollection is I paid about the same 10 years ago in Heathrow (although those were at full price).
     
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    Perhaps being from Academia - the idea of wearing a product that is now part of the English language "in the Pink" appeals to me. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    zjpj83 Senior member

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    I agree.
     
  16. Nonk

    Nonk Senior member

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    Is there anyone else out there not too bothered about MOP buttons? (Nice but not the end of the world if they do not have them)

    I have shirts from Ede and Ravenscroft, Harvie and Hudson and Smyth and Gibson all with MOP buttons, but none are better (and I have not yet decided if they are even as good) as my Clarke and Dawe shirts which have plastic buttons.

    What is so good about MOP if they fall off after 1 wearing.
     
  17. SmartDresser

    SmartDresser Well-Known Member

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    MOP buttons break too fast, don't you think? If they have a polymer backing, then OK. Also, the MOP have a heavenly look.
     
  18. ernest

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    In Paris, the corner of Pink at The Galleries LaFayette is exactly that you are describeing =

    Tastelasse shit (ugly stripes, tacky patterns), looking good on shelves at 170 euros.
     
  19. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    OKay, I can't let this pass. As an academic, you must certainly be interested in the development of such terms -- the genetic analysis, I believe a Comp Lit professor called it. Thomas Pink has nothing to do with the original, apocryphal 1700s tailor whose name allegedly spawned the phrase "in the pink". It was founded as a low-cost Jermyn Street-style shirtmaker in Fulham about 20 years ago by the Mullen brothers, marketing graduates. They gradually nosed up their profile from dressing signet-ringed wannabe real estate agents into a real Jermyn Street shop and into the LVMH stable. Somewhere along the way production shifted to the 3rd world. An analogy to this use of an unrelated name for marketing purposes is Sam Adams beer (except I'd actually buy Sam Adams beer) -- no relation to the 1700s brewer/patriot/rabblerouser except in name. Or, perhaps more aptly, the "Savile Row" range of junky clothing on sale in Macy's etc. Yes, by wearing it one may feel a frisson of elation in wearing clothes with a label recalling the very best of men's sartorial tradition... but apart from the name there's no relation whatsoever. Borrowed past, borrowed glory. Pandit RJman-singhji
     
  20. AlanC

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    I'd opt for the Tyrwhitt sale, which includes some seven fold ties.
     

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