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Thinking about going on a 'fast'..

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by sho'nuff, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    listen carefully - seriously, do this without making changes, and it will serve you well.


    atkins and Eas protien shakes - they are about 200 cals and zero carbs

    beef and chicken broth

    eggs

    green ice tea


    3-5 shakes a day, one egg, all the tea and broth you want. you will loose so much weight, so fast, you won't know what hit you


    good luck



    oh, and you won't feel hungry at all, for a couple of weeks
     
  2. why

    why Senior member

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    Please don't make a diet out of shakes. Most diets are habitual (hence why thin people tend to stay thin and fat people tend to stay fat). Making a habit out of drinking protein shakes is not only unsustainable but it's gross. Food is something more than a calculated level of sustenance.
     
  3. Mr T

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    If I remember correctly you had lost a bunch of weight a year or so ago. I know that because you sold me some trousers that you never wore do to your weight loss.

    First, why don't you just do what you did earlier to lose weight? Second, do you need the pants back? They are too big for me now.
     
  4. Crakaveli

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    how about fasting one day a week? green tea is much better than coffee. it has the same amount of caffeine and doesn't overstimulate the adrenal gland which leads to fatigue.
     
  5. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    If I remember correctly you had lost a bunch of weight a year or so ago. I know that because you sold me some trousers that you never wore do to your weight loss.

    First, why don't you just do what you did earlier to lose weight? Second, do you need the pants back? They are too big for me now.


    i sold you pants last year? hehehe
     
  6. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    keep me accountable. i go home and eat dinner so i will let you know how it went down for my first day of 'fast' (eating less).
     
  7. BDC2823

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    Make sure you get enough broccolis!
     
  8. Mr T

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    i sold you pants last year? hehehe

    Yes, charcoal flat front Hickey Freeman. You were going through your "difficult period" and selling many items.

    Maybe more than a year? Anyway, good luck with the weight loss.
     
  9. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    Yeah that difficult period was when I lost my job and was unemployed for 6 months. Almost two years ago.
     
  10. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    I think that the helpful thing to do before a fast is to prepare yourself by eating less in the days before you go on it.

    yeah that seems to be the case with me now.

    last night i had a 5 chicken thighs with a scoop of the korean brown/purple rice that is heavy in the beans, barley and peas. the thighs were kind of small but she glazed them in some sauce in the frying pan. some kimchi and jalapenos and seaweed laver. i calculated that amount of dinner to be around 1300 calories.
    so i had about 1700 calories yesterday and did 65 minutes of stairmaster watching angels game.


    today this morning i had a large butter croissant. about~400 calories. cup of black coffee.


    this is an adjustment towards a fast hopefully as eating 2000 let alone 1700 is very rare for me.
    friday nights are my weaknesses as my wife is at her mother's at church and i am left home alone to eat /buy anything i want. hopefully i can just minimize my eating to 1000 ~ calories and do the stairmaster and continue
     
  11. 1969

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    isnt calories same as any calories? my point is, that the muffin with its 400 calories will keep me sated longer than a 400 calorie salad
    Calories are not calories. As long as you keep the added fats out you can eat as much salad and steamed vegetables as you want. Not only does it provide a lot of fiber which gives you a sense of being full, but those leafy greens are DENSE in micronutrients. Those micronutrients will regulate your appetite naturally because you'll be getting the nutrients you need. When you eat refined foods like muffins you get no micronutrients and therefore your body keeps looking for what it needs. If you are doing some sort of a modified fast, just eat a huge salad with fat free dressing once a day, and as much steamed veggies as you want and a tiny (2-4oz) amount of broiled chicken. Later, add in legumes, nuts and seeds, fruits, and sparing amounts of meat, dairy and oil.
     
  12. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    If you do actually get to a point where aren't easting those croissants and do become calorie deficient, you will need to keep in mind the effects the fast may have on your state of mind. You won't go nuts but you may find that you become a little moody, grumpier and or even slightly depressed. Doesen't happen to everyone but worth keeping a note of so you are aware of it and you can psych yourself accordingly.
     
  14. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    ok will do. i'll keep that in mind.
     
  15. why

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    Calories are not calories. As long as you keep the added fats out you can eat as much salad and steamed vegetables as you want. Not only does it provide a lot of fiber which gives you a sense of being full, but those leafy greens are DENSE in micronutrients. Those micronutrients will regulate your appetite naturally because you'll be getting the nutrients you need. When you eat refined foods like muffins you get no micronutrients and therefore your body keeps looking for what it needs. If you are doing some sort of a modified fast, just eat a huge salad with fat free dressing once a day, and as much steamed veggies as you want and a tiny (2-4oz) amount of broiled chicken. Later, add in legumes, nuts and seeds, fruits, and sparing amounts of meat, dairy and oil.

    Basically, ignore this entire post because it's nonsense.
     
  16. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    why, why? it makes sense. rather than a big croissant or muffin at 400 empty calories consume a salad with beans and some white meat in it for 400 efficient calories with nutrients. how does this become nonsense please explain i am being serious
     
  17. freude

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    long fast => boredom + huge meal = worse off than before... got me more than once.
    how does this become nonsense please explain i am being serious
    because: calories are actually calories, there is a limit to how much vegetables you should eat, fiber doesn't give you a "sense of being full", a multivitamin has as many "micronutrients" as you will ever need and you still get hungry after taking it, i.e. your body doesn't "look for what it needs" by signaling hunger when it lacks nutrients. and he throws a bunch of cliche diet options around at the end that no one really follows. In other words, I lol'd. What you said in your OP is fine. It's what I have been following for a year and I manage. What I mean to say is I fast intermittently with a similar game plan.
     
  18. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    long fast => boredom + huge meal = worse off than before... got me more than once.

    because: calories are actually calories, there is a limit to how much vegetables you should eat, fiber doesn't give you a "sense of being full", a multivitamin has as many "micronutrients" as you will ever need and you still get hungry after taking it, i.e. your body doesn't "look for what it needs" by signaling hunger when it lacks nutrients. and he throws a bunch of cliche diet options around at the end that no one really follows. In other words, I lol'd.

    What you said in your OP is fine. It's what I have been following for a year and I manage. What I mean to say is I fast intermittently with a similar game plan.


    trust me ive been there before.
     
  19. 1969

    1969 Senior member

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    because: calories are actually calories, there is a limit to how much vegetables you should eat, fiber doesn't give you a "sense of being full", a multivitamin has as many "micronutrients" as you will ever need and you still get hungry after taking it, i.e. your body doesn't "look for what it needs" by signaling hunger when it lacks nutrients. and he throws a bunch of cliche diet options around at the end that no one really follows. In other words, I lol'd.

    What you said in your OP is fine. It's what I have been following for a year and I manage. What I mean to say is I fast intermittently with a similar game plan.


    1)Calories are not equal: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa16.htm

    2) And what is that limit?

    3)Fiber makes you full:http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/weight-loss/NU00195

    I'll give you the last point- nobody really follows shit which is why most guys my age have a 38" waist.
     
  20. why

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