Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Jul 3, 2009.
This one is still my favorite.
Like...2006? You can blame them for the whole trend of electronic music in America.
you mean in the world. what I don't get is dj's filling arenas but instead of people watching a concert, they watch someone behind a turntable.
Daft Punk has been a big deal for a really long time. And they haven't put out a studio album in quite a while, so this one is getting a lot of press. That it's pretty awesome doesn't hurt either
Now this I'm with you on. There was just this big electronic music festival in New York... And I totally do not understand why people want to go watch a dude standing behind a laptop concentrating. I mean, is programming a spectator sport? It's just as exciting from what I can tell...
Well I think a lot of people just go for the DJ's set. A good DJ is supposed to react to the crowd, and being there live can be a really cool experience. A lot more people are there to stare at someone famous and/or be there for an event perceived as cool.
I remember a friend brought up this concert he attended on his ipad and he's like look how awesome this is. It was this guy jumping in front of a lap top wearing bunny ears just playing songs and mixing songs together and such. I am watching and I was waiting for the band to go on and then nothing. That was it. I was like, "um, that was probably the gayest thing I have ever seen. Why did you waste my time?" He got so offended and was going on about how intense it was and the crowd was so into it. I was so aggravated at the notion that this DJ could pull a crowd together, and furthermore my idiot friend would think I would be into it.
I also recently had a similar conversation with a friend who goes to clubs whenever some international DJ he likes plays. He doesn't dance, but he says different DJ's have different set lists and good ones are very responsive to crowds, making it more of a two way interaction than with other types of live music.
The only time I really notice DJing is when it's a bad DJ that mishandles a drop or something.
Forget Daft, Boards of Canada is releasing a new disc!
Daft Punk are great.
I don't understand going to stand around but dancing is something totally different. If you just stand you won't or can't understand the point but if you dance it's a great way to spend a few hours with the wife(or so I think).
I've been to a few shows like this, and it can go both ways. It also depends how far it tilts between a DJ-set (where they are really just mixing tracks) and more of an electronic music show where they may be mixing in other stuff, but the focus is on the music they are making rather than the music they are mixing together. For the pure DJ-sets, its really just a party. Not much different then going to a club except you know that the music is going to be good (by your tastes since you picked the dj) and that the other patrons are probably more there to have fun and dance to music they like than to buy some flashy bottle service, get wasted, and try to score....The DJ works the crowd, plays with building and releasing tension, but for the most part does not make new music.
Electronic music shows are a bit different. Those guys are actually musicians. People may raise their noses in snobbery and try to argue, but they will find themselves on the wrong side of history...just because their instruments are turntables, keyboards, laptops, and sample/effects control boards doesn't mean these guys aren't musicians (and a suprising amount of them have a good understanding of music theory and are classically trained in more traditional instruments).
Avicii was a piece of shit. Maybe he isn't always like this (and obviously, he actually made the music at some point) but he got on stage, climbed up into his big fancy set piece, and then hit play. I honestly couldn't tell if it was a live DJ or not. Might as well have just phoned it in. Some people were clearly super excited by just the fact that some dude was sitting up there and pressing play on the songs they heard on the radio, but I felt like I paid a large opportunity cost to be there instead of doing absolutely anything else.
Other times though, they have truly been musicians. Their songs may be constructed of digitized samples and prerecorded strings of notes, but they are actively controlling and triggering them. Justice put on a tremendous show. It was still just 2 dudes on a fancy set piece, but they were up there doing a live show. The music didn't sound like the album recording--themes would come and go, songs that the audience was eating up would get extra time and embellishment like a live band adding a long solo and an extra chorus or two. Never had the opportunity to see daft punk, but I'm sure their shows are like this.
When we saw Deadmaus play it was a far better set than any other I have heard to date. Start to end just a perfect groove, great rise and fall, perfect breather moments and "drops". Prior to that I never liked his style or many of the songs but I'd buy another pair of tickets to dance without question.
Avicii, I listened to on the sat in the car during a long highway drive and was far from impressed, as stated above it seemed like he wasn't there and just pressed play. This is the case for a fair amount of the newer generation of DJ's who seem to just cycle other peoples music and don't produce much if anything.
I'm not knocking electronic music. Some of it is, as you pointed out, quite good, in addition to being technically proficient and theoretically sound. I just don't understand the appeal of watching it live. There's nothing to see but a guy behind a laptop most of the time.
As opposed to seeing a guy pressing keys behind a piano most of the time?
As opposed to a band with guys behind regular musical instruments most of the time?
I'm not going to speak to dub step, but Daft Punk is a fantastic live show.
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