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Things you just don't get

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    I agree with this, in general. I'm not sure my experience supports the statement that "most" probation officers are corrupt (for what it's worth, my experience is more with the federal than the state/county system), but it's certainly true that as a result of some combination of under-resourcing/incomeptence/corruption/lack of vision/whatever, the parole/probation/supervised release system is currently pretty dysfunctional. But I think HB's right that with some thought and reform it could be part of a much-improved overall system.
     
  2. imatlas

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    These are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    This is true. IMO the front end work is harder and more dodgy though. We would have to do things like encourage intact families, etc.

    Still think this is a great topic but more suited for CE. I guess I could say though I don't get why encouraging things like intact families has gotten political.
     
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    Don't try to impose your gender normative cis-views on us.
     
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    It all goes back to what Daniel Patrick Moynihan discovered.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...eport-and-ongoing-family-breakdown/rich-lowry
     
  6. Find Finn

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    The issue the prisons is that its pretty much a business network for criminals, most low-level criminals that go to prison come out worse than they went in.

    At least here in Denmark it doesn't seem that there's a focus on creating skills, that the inmates can use when they get out.
    Another issue is criminal records, they are a large part of keeping criminals criminals, as most employers don't want someone with a criminal record, but who says they are more likely to steal etc. than someone without one, it doesn't really make sense to punish people once again after they are done serving their time.
     
  7. Find Finn

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    I don't get BIG architecture and why developers love it.
     
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  9. Find Finn

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    Have you ever been inside one of their houses?

    I don't think Bjarke has ever lived in one of his own designs.
     
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    From what I gather, it's a mix between developers wanting a prized firm do a building with them, and squeezing every penny possible out of every square foot. My wife just moved from a "developer-friendly" architecture firm to a small architecture firm that does smaller-scope projects.
     
  11. Find Finn

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    I don't get why they spend so much time making the building nice to look at, when the interior is not very livable, a fun fact is that all the developers who have build BIG projects in Denmark have gone belly up and have had big problems selling the units, one even had to sell below cost.
     
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    Well, that's probably why he didn't wan't to put it in CE...
     
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    Are we going to start treating non-intact family backgrounds as a protected class? Is "intact family upbringing" the new "gender normative cis scum"? :laugh:
     
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    Like encouraging abortion!
     
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    Forget encourage, how about require?
     
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    That's exactly where all the data is. If you put money into prevention and intervention, you get a save a shitload of money on the back end and reduce crime pretty dramatically. Simple and seemingly obvious stuff like mentoring and after school programs are often the most effective solutions- keep kids engaged in healthy activities, they don't get into a life of crime instead. You can prevent crime from ever happening by putting money into stuff like Big Brothers, Big Sisters. We've tried more cops, we've tried tougher sentencing. It's pretty plainly obvious at this point that that approach doesn't work.
     
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    That's a solid point. I urge everyone here that hasn't already to adopt one or more local non profits that work in these areas to focus your giving and volunteering around. Forget the big national charities that harass you for bucks, local orgs are usually a lot more efficient and effective. Check them out using Charity Navigator or similar, read their 990s, get to know the staff and the Executive Director, join the board, whatever. I know a lot of you already do this, but for those who don't, this is a much more effective and inspiring way to support your community than giving $10 a week to the local United Way campaign.
     
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  18. lawyerdad

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    The pawn shop in my neighborhood (think it is a Pawn USA).

    I go in there every once and a while...hoping I might see some sort of tool/guitar/bike that I want. But their prices are absolutely absurd. I don't see how anyone ever buys anything. They will have computers priced above what a comparable new system can be had for...guitar things at close to retail.

    Today they had a used walmart "fixie" on sale for $129 or so...I've seen walmart selling them for $79 brand new (not that they are even worth that much).
     
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    In my experience most pawn shops sell things on a payment plan, so while that bike might cost $129 from the pawn shop you only have to put $10 down.
     

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