Things you just don't get

[HRoi]

I think we all missed the obvious reason...this person doesn't like HRoi so they ignore him.

BS. So that means everyone in the company doesn’t like me, then??

Um…actually, don’t answer that

 

[venividivicibj]

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Email
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Meetings

 

[venividivicibj]

Our teams chats auto-delete after a few days

Why??
Our emails auto delete after 90 days and it’s the dumbest thing ever

 

[mhip]

Why??
Our emails auto delete after 90 days and it’s the dumbest thing ever

I keep everything...

So many times at work I've heard "I never said that" "I never received that" "You never told me that"

Oh....contraire, please see this email dated 2009. Is that you? IS THAT YOU??

 

[Texasmade]

Why??
Our emails auto delete after 90 days and it’s the dumbest thing ever

Emails are supposed to be retained for 7 years. They can be auto-archived but not deleted.

 

[otc]

Why??
Our emails auto delete after 90 days and it’s the dumbest thing ever

Emails? Oh that’s bad.

Chats I’m ok with (there is something a little freeing about knowing the history will go away…not everything needs to be saved forever) as long as we try to keep important info in a more permanent space.

But I regularly reference YEARs old emails. Life would be so much less efficient if I had to figure stuff out fresh every time something similar came up.

 

[SixOhNine]

But I regularly reference YEARs old emails. Life would be so much less efficient if I had to figure stuff out fresh every time something similar came up.

Yeah, just a couple of days ago I used some form language/analysis out of an email from 2019, sent by a mentor who left in 2021.

 

[otc]

our parent company added some email filters a few years ago that automatically strip attachments of certain file types (and this applies to old emails retroactively).

Except that list included the extensions of several common programming languages that are used in our industry.

So now sometimes I can find an email that has exactly what I want to use…except the attachment is missing. Now I have to either redo from scratch or ask IT to restore an old project folder from cold storage and hope it is in there.

 

[HRoi]

are those emails getting fully deleted, or just auto archived?

I can’t fathom not having emails after a year or two…projects are multiple years long, so many things like performance reviews, audits, YE reports, etc etc go on a yearly cadence, so many things need to be compared year over year, and so on.

 

[venividivicibj]

Emails are supposed to be retained for 7 years. They can be auto-archived but not deleted.

We’re a private company, so don’t think retention policy apply

are those emails getting fully deleted, or just auto archived?

Actually deleted.

 

[brokencycle]

Emails are supposed to be retained for 7 years. They can be auto-archived but not deleted.

That's industry specific. Most companies not in highly regulated industries like banking do not have set rules unless there is some kind of legal hold or something.

A major reason for auto-deleting emails/IMs/electronic communications is to avoid having them appear in discovery.

 

[otc]

I did have a project with a legal hold in place.

It was a project that went on for many years…and the hold included paper printouts and stuff like that (Back in a time when it was normal to have meetings in person where you’d print out copies of your charts/tables for everyone rather than show it on a screen).

I still had those ******* boxes in my office when Covid hit and I moved away/gave up my office. Nobody could tell us what to do with them…Hope they made it where they needed to go.

Insane to imagine anyone would ever try and review/make sense of that stuff. Not like it was orderly bankers boxes…we’re talking basically treating it like a trash can with loose papers randomly tossed inside…

 

[brokencycle]

I did have a project with a legal hold in place.

It was a project that went on for many years…and the hold included paper printouts and stuff like that (Back in a time when it was normal to have meetings in person where you’d print out copies of your charts/tables for everyone rather than show it on a screen).

I still had those ******* boxes in my office when Covid hit and I moved away/gave up my office. Nobody could tell us what to do with them…Hope they made it where they needed to go.

Insane to imagine anyone would ever try and review/make sense of that stuff. Not like it was orderly bankers boxes…we’re talking basically treating it like a trash can with loose papers randomly tossed inside…

That's why there are a ton of contract jobs for lawyers -- just reviewing discovery documents.

 

[SixOhNine]

That's why there are a ton of contract jobs for lawyers -- just reviewing discovery documents.

It is one of the more soul crushing things you can do as a recently licensed lawyer, but at least the pay sucks. I did it for a while after the Great Recession, after my company eliminated 90% of its employees and I was scrambling for work. It was part of the reason I ended up on antidepressants.

I've read that this field is one that's being seriously reduced by technology advances and, potentially, AI. No one should miss it.

 

[Texasmade]

That's why there are a ton of contract jobs for lawyers -- just reviewing discovery documents.

It is one of the more soul crushing things you can do as a recently licensed lawyer, but at least the pay sucks. I did it for a while after the Great Recession, after my company eliminated 90% of its employees and I was scrambling for work. It was part of the reason I ended up on antidepressants.

I've read that this field is one that's being seriously reduced by technology advances and, potentially, AI. No one should miss it.

I remember doing a 2 week stint at my first job in auditing doing forensic accounting work. Basically all I did was create index binders with old emails for lawyers to do discovery work. I was thinking "This fvcking sucks. I feel sorry for the lawyers having to actually go through this bullsh1t."

FYI- forensic accounting has some of the highest bill rates in a big 4 accounting firm.