that's a good approach. apparently, they both met at a training last month and discussed something that they wanted from me, and, apparently, promised not to tell me what the others position was. so, the first chance they got, one told me that the other guy was really unhappy about this and that I should fix it to keep him from quitting. so of course I called the other guy, who denied it but was pissed at the first guy. and things have been going to hell since then. one of them got back from a 2 week trip last friday at midnight. monday at 5 pm the other guy calls me to ask why the first guy didn't distribute his trip reports already. that kind of kid shit. ship both of them out!