Things That Are Bothering You, Got You All Hibbeldy-Jibbeldy, or just downright pissed, RIGHT NOW!

[sugarbutch]

I don't understand the batch variation in 'extra toasty' cheezits. I've had some boxes that are bonkers good, and others that are lacking in salt, or just look like normal cheezits with a slight tan. I want that **** crispy.

That's because Cheezits are trash.

 

[SixOhNine]

That's because Cheezits are trash.

^^This.

There's a reason they get outsold 6,000,000,000 to 1 by Goldfish.

 

[venividivicibj]

That's because Cheezits are trash.

^^This.

There's a reason they get outsold 6,000,000,000 to 1 by Goldfish.

 

[venividivicibj]

My wife’s flight is delayed because ‘they added too much fuel to the plane’

 

[HRoi]

Especially if the team is already there - you aren't getting additional economic activity by keeping them

Has anyone ever met anyone who says they believe the economic stimulus argument? I think everyone sees this move for the extortion that it is

 

[Texasmade]

Has anyone ever met anyone who says they believe the economic stimulus argument? I think everyone sees this move for the extortion that it is

I believed it when I was a kid. As an adult, I always thought it was total bullsh1t. What baffles me more are ppl defending sports team owners and wanting the city to give them the money while complaining about wasting tax payer $.

 

[Omega Male]

I believed it when I was a kid. As an adult, I always thought it was total bullsh1t. What baffles me more are ppl defending sports team owners and wanting the city to give them the money while complaining about wasting tax payer $.

 

[HRoi]

I believed it when I was a kid. As an adult, I always thought it was total bullsh1t. What baffles me more are ppl defending sports team owners and wanting the city to give them the money while complaining about wasting tax payer $.

I can understand people buying into sports loyalty, being generational fans and “sticking with the team through thick and thin”….i’ve been there myself.

Ironically it was mainly our experience in Miami with the Marlins that made me realize that the team has to have the same commitment to putting a quality product on the field, and if not - they don’t deserve any loyalty at all.

Jeffrey Loria, whose place in the 9th circle of Hell has been reserved for a few decades now, pulled this same **** on the city of Miami and didn’t even have the courtesy to try and put a competitive product on the field. I guess at least San Antonio can expect the Spurs to deliver a good product.

These clubs want people to treat them like a religion, but they treat their fans like customers of a business (which to be fair, we are). But it has to go both ways - if your product sucks, then I’m not buying.

 

[mhip]

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My company used to have season seats for the Kings during the Gretzky era.
I remember pulling up to park for the first game of the season, and parking had been raised to $12.
I had to restrain myself from attacking the attendant, who I realized had nothing to do with the increase.

 

[UnFacconable]

The argument they help the economy is laughable. Even if you assume all the consumer spending is net incremental (it isn't because people pay for that rather than something else at some level), they are massive economic black holes. A baseball stadium gets used maybe 100 days per year. Football is 8-10. Hockey and basketball are in the 40 day range.

Otherwise they sit and take up prime real estate in a city or are just in the middle of nowhere in the suburbs.

This isn't even close to true. Basketball stadiums get used for a lot more than just the primary sport they are built for. The Warriors facility in San Francisco hosts 200 events per year. I've seen Cirque Du Soleil there, concerts, etc. I've been there more for outside events than I have for basketball. It's not unique either - same is true for pretty much every sports venue in the bay area. I've seen concerts at the Giants stadium, A's stadium and others. The baseball only stadiums that have been built since Camden Yards make them a little less useful for outside events, but they still get used. The niners stadium only hosts a few dozen events per year but indoor ones are much more useful.

 

[sugarbutch]

Arenas have broader utility, but outdoor football and baseball stadiums mostly empty. They certainly have a handful of other events, but hardly enough to justify public investment.

 

[brokencycle]

This isn't even close to true. Basketball stadiums get used for a lot more than just the primary sport they are built for. The Warriors facility in San Francisco hosts 200 events per year. I've seen Cirque Du Soleil there, concerts, etc. I've been there more for outside events than I have for basketball. It's not unique either - same is true for pretty much every sports venue in the bay area. I've seen concerts at the Giants stadium, A's stadium and others. The baseball only stadiums that have been built since Camden Yards make them a little less useful for outside events, but they still get used. The niners stadium only hosts a few dozen events per year but indoor ones are much more useful.

It depends on the city. US Bank stadium, the Minneapolis stadium built a few years ago, hosts about 60 events per year. That's about 1 a week. It sits next to a major medical complex on the edge of downtown next to a light rail stop.

It is hard to believe that drives more economic activity than alternative uses. There are many economics papers that claim stadiums are a bad bet for cities.

 

[Texasmade]

I can understand people buying into sports loyalty, being generational fans and “sticking with the team through thick and thin”….i’ve been there myself.

Ironically it was mainly our experience in Miami with the Marlins that made me realize that the team has to have the same commitment to putting a quality product on the field, and if not - they don’t deserve any loyalty at all.

Jeffrey Loria, whose place in the 9th circle of Hell has been reserved for a few decades now, pulled this same **** on the city of Miami and didn’t even have the courtesy to try and put a competitive product on the field. I guess at least San Antonio can expect the Spurs to deliver a good product.

These clubs want people to treat them like a religion, but they treat their fans like customers of a business (which to be fair, we are). But it has to go both ways - if your product sucks, then I’m not buying.

Which is why I always thought ppl trying to call out fans for not being “true fans” and sticking with a team when they suck was stupid. Why would the owner put money into the team if he or she knows the idiot fans will continue to support them?

 

[double00]

I can understand people buying into sports loyalty, being generational fans and “sticking with the team through thick and thin”….i’ve been there myself.

Ironically it was mainly our experience in Miami with the Marlins that made me realize that the team has to have the same commitment to putting a quality product on the field, and if not - they don’t deserve any loyalty at all.

Jeffrey Loria, whose place in the 9th circle of Hell has been reserved for a few decades now, pulled this same **** on the city of Miami and didn’t even have the courtesy to try and put a competitive product on the field. I guess at least San Antonio can expect the Spurs to deliver a good product.

These clubs want people to treat them like a religion, but they treat their fans like customers of a business (which to be fair, we are). But it has to go both ways - if your product sucks, then I’m not buying.

try being a sports fan in Oakland

 

[edinatlanta]

What a disastrous five minutes for Slovakia.