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Things That Are Bothering You, Got You All Hibbeldy-Jibbeldy, or just downright pissed, RIGHT NOW!

Claghorn

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I had no idea how to pronounce "anomie" until recently. I once taught a class on Orwell and had the hardest time pronouncing "intelligentsia" the first couple of classes. It was a little embarrassing.

I also find that since moving out of an English speaking country, I'm more prone to making phonetic mistakes while typing. I'm thinking it has to do with constantly hearing a language I barely understand and thinking in terms of sounds rather than words as I write. Either that or senility. I hope it's not senility.
 

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I think it depends on the variety of British English, also working class and the upper crust tend to do it more than the middle class I believe. It also varies to some extent with age, with both younger and older people choosing the less prestigious pronunciation and middle aged people choosing the more prestigious.


You mean that retaining the h would be the more prestigious pronunciation, right? (In my stereotype of working-class British English, the h's get dropped, as in 'armonica.)

Don't know if you'd know this, but is there still variation within Great Britain or Australia in the pronunciation of herb? In the US, it would be very odd to hear someone from any social class or from any region say herb with the h. That's why I was genuinely surprised at Harvey: if I heard that in real life, I'd be taken aback for a second.
 

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You mean that retaining the h would be the more prestigious pronunciation, right? (In my stereotype of working-class British English, the h's get dropped, as in 'armonica.)
Don't know if you'd know this, but is there still variation within Great Britain or Australia in the pronunciation of herb? In the US, it would be very odd to hear someone from any social class or from any region say herb with the h. That's why I was genuinely surprised at Harvey: if I heard that in real life, I'd be taken aback for a second.


Yes, retaining the h is more prestigious, working class Brits think it sounds posh, however, strangely, very upper crust Brits also drop the h.

I can't remember a Brit, Australian, Kiwi (any non-North American native English speaker) not pronouncing the h in herb.

Also "fillet" has a 't', did you know that? **** McDonald's!
 

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I am not going to be able to watch the Rams game today because I'll be on the road the whole time and outside the STL radio market. I'm counting on you guys to keep me updated.
 

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I can settle these cross cultural language differences with this instructional video:
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only funny post in that entire convo. thank you rambo.
 

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That is as rich as Harvey's chocolate madeleines.
 

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I didn't realise until after Rambo's posts, but I read every one of L'Inc's posts in Eddie Izzard's voice.
 

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Yes, retaining the h is more prestigious, working class Brits think it sounds posh, however, strangely, very upper crust Brits also drop the h.


I was once told that an H at the beginning of a word should be treated as a "gentle introduction to the word" so the slight exhale leads into the following vowel sound. It also explains the practice of using "an" for words beginning with H even though "a" is used for all other words starting with consonants. "An hotel" vs "A car"
 

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The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) adopted aluminium as the standard international name for the element in 1990 but, three years later, recognized aluminum as an acceptable variant.


Really, I'm supposed to care about some Johnny Come Latelys?

In 1926, the American Chemical Society officially decided to use aluminum in its publications.
 

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