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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Get Smart, Jan 12, 2007.

  1. prozach1576

    prozach1576 Senior member

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    Oh my...tweed herringbone? You've got a guaranteed purchase from me if that happens.

    *boner*
     
  2. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    Any idea when the special offer for forum members will run until?

    Not forever, but definitely thru spring/summer....I know it's not like fellas just have $400 lying around to blow on a suit. But I'm an easy going dood, if someone PMs me next fall and wants the introductory price I'm prolly not gonna say no.
     
  3. Bandwagonesque

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    You might have answered this earlier, but a few questions:
    1) Will you have a guide or photos to show how the measurements were taken? Regarding things like sleeve length, I'm not sure if this is taken from the top of the shoulder down, or bisecting the entire length of the arm, or from the pit on down. Same goes with shoulder and total length.
    2) I'm thinking I'd like mine with an extra inch and a half of length in the jacket. Will this result in the pockets shifting downwards a little, or in your opinion, will the pockets look fine where they are? Also, if an extra bit of length is added, could this make adding a second button possible?
    3) As a 37" chest, I'd be more comfortable with the 38" model, or with the MTM option, can a 19.5" pit-to-pit be done?
    4) Are the hem measurements taken from unfinished trouser length, or at a typical inseam, say 32"? Is the hem of 7.5" wide enough that it would look good with boots? Those photos of the Sartorialist in Europe with the gent in the boots convinced me that a grey suit + dark tan chukkas look [​IMG]
     
  4. Jovan

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    Oh my...tweed herringbone? You've got a guaranteed purchase from me if that happens. *boner*
    My thoughts exactly but... TMI.
     
  5. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    You might have answered this earlier, but a few questions:
    1) Will you have a guide or photos to show how the measurements were taken? Regarding things like sleeve length, I'm not sure if this is taken from the top of the shoulder down, or bisecting the entire length of the arm, or from the pit on down. Same goes with shoulder and total length.
    2) I'm thinking I'd like mine with an extra inch and a half of length in the jacket. Will this result in the pockets shifting downwards a little, or in your opinion, will the pockets look fine where they are? Also, if an extra bit of length is added, could this make adding a second button possible?
    3) As a 37" chest, I'd be more comfortable with the 38" model, or with the MTM option, can a 19.5" pit-to-pit be done?
    4) Are the hem measurements taken from unfinished trouser length, or at a typical inseam, say 32"? Is the hem of 7.5" wide enough that it would look good with boots? Those photos of the Sartorialist in Europe with the gent in the boots convinced me that a grey suit + dark tan chukkas look [​IMG]


    1. yes I'll have a self measurement guide up soon enough (will work on this weekend matter of fact)

    2. adding length is no problem, if you're only adding an inch or two, the pocket position I would leave as is. as for adding a second button, I'd have to take a closer look at the dimensions. If/when I make a 2 button model, I'd want it to have notch lapels rather than peak, and non-hacking pockets

    3. a 19.5" pit to pit is no problem. These run on the smaller side of its tagsize so honestly a normal 38 would probably be a good fit in the chest area for a 37

    4. the hem measurement is taken from a typical length position, but a 28" - 34" inseam would end up with roughly the same hem, +/- .25". Keep in mind that the trousers are meant to be worn 'no break' so, for example, my friend in the pics who's 6'3" has a 32.5" inseam. It'll end up being much shorter than, say, your jeans inseam. And *I* think a 7.5" hem looks good with boots (a nice slim one, not a bulky one), not a fan of bootcut suit trousers at all. The way trouser proportions work, a true straight leg from knee to hem results in the appearance of a kickout/flare. To 'look' straight leg you actually need a small taper, about 1" difference from knee to bottom.
     
  6. Bandwagonesque

    Bandwagonesque Senior member

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    OK, sounds good. I agree with you on the trouser legs - flared or bootcut looks bad (disco anyone?). I guess you would have to make the pants really narrow around the knee area if you wanted a decent looking straight leg - which would be far too uncomfortable for most. The taper isn't that big enough that it would look silly anyway.

    I was actually thinking of getting notches on all lapels anyway, even if I get a one button.

    When will the rest of the fabric swatches be posted?
     
  7. Jovan

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    I think he only offers the one button in peaks.
     
  8. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    When will the rest of the fabric swatches be posted?

    I'm trying to finalize some tweeds, so it's a matter of when that happens, maybe in about 2 weeks. The tweeds aren't intended for the one button suit, more fitting with possibly the 3 button but mostly intended for the ivy-sack (not yet avail, but in the near future).

    Currently, the swatches online are what's available for the one/three button suit.
     
  9. Jared

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    Jason, I was pleasantly surprised by the evident amount of design that went into your fabric choices: besides the black (which I've already whined about [​IMG]), you've obviously carefully selected your colours rather than just going with the usual suspects (eg: no navy!). I think I'm not the only one who'd love to hear more regarding your feelings about the fabrics, the thought process that went into choosing them, and how you envision them being worn? For example, just looking at the showroom photos, you've partnered with each very stylistically different shirts, ties, and shoes...
     
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    Jason, I was pleasantly surprised by the evident amount of design that went into your fabric choices: besides the black (which I've already whined about [​IMG]), you've obviously carefully selected your colours rather than just going with the usual suspects (eg: no navy!). I think I'm not the only one who'd love to hear more regarding your feelings about the fabrics, the thought process that went into choosing them, and how you envision them being worn? For example, just looking at the showroom photos, you've partnered with each very stylistically different shirts, ties, and shoes...

    +1 - we want info [​IMG]
     
  11. Bandwagonesque

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    I'm curious about some of the paterned ones - it's tough to tell from the photos since they are not to scale the size of the pinstripes, checks and plaids (and windowpanes).

    wool colors:
    -black
    -navy - not available yet?
    -charcoal
    -mid grey
    -steel blue grey - ditto?
    -large prince of wales check
    -small prince of wales check
    -olive green-ish glen plaid
    -taupe glen plaid - is this the brown one?
    -black pinstripe
    -dark grey pinstripe
    -mid grey pinstripe
    -navy pinstripe
    -navy windowpane - yum

    a few flannels:
    -black
    -olive/grey
    -shit brown [​IMG]
    -dark teal
     
  12. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    Bandwagon...regarding your questions about colors:

    -no navy. I'm not a big fan of navy blue suitings. Most navy's (regardless of its pedigree) just don't look good to me, maybe because of my prejudice towards those who wear it (corporate midlevel management types). I know there's been some discussion on MC about "midnight blue" and this is a color I've seen (as well as own, in a vintage jacket) that I'd *love* to offer if I can find the right fabric. But no luck yet.

    -steel blue grey. Originally this was going to be an offering, but I reconsidered because it doesnt have the right sheen that I'd want this sort of color to have. It's not a bad color tho, and I might throw it into the mix again.

    -I replaced the taupe glen plaid with the dark brown glen plaid. It's a richer color, but the taupe (which is what I'm wearing in a few pics) is available if you *really* want it.

    -Navy windowpane...despite what I said above about navy, I like the base navy color of this quite a bit. It's got a slight greycast to it, and it's not so magenta-infused blue that most navy's are. Next time I update the swatches with the tweeds, I'll throw this back into the mix.

    -the brown flannel I'm not too into. It'll probably get replaced by a brown-tone tweed eventually, preferably a salt/pepper type tweed in a brown colorway.
     
  13. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    I think I'm not the only one who'd love to hear more regarding your feelings about the fabrics, the thought process that went into choosing them, and how you envision them being worn? For example, just looking at the showroom photos, you've partnered with each very stylistically different shirts, ties, and shoes...

    If I had chosen fabrics about 3+ years ago it would have looked more like what Duncan Quinn/Ozwald Boateng are doing with bright pink/blue pinstripes, loud prints/checks etc. I've owned suits like this and grew out of their ineffectiveness to look smart, yet serious, and their inability to be paired with interesting shirt/tie combos without looking too over the top (or you end up looking like Sanford from Sex in the City).

    I'm more into neutral suit palettes now so that you can wear a bright shirt/tie with it and not have all the EQ levels cranked to 10.....or you can wear it more classically with white shirt/simple tie, which evokes more of a "60s cool" vibe, esp if you throw in a white hanky with a TV-fold showing just under .25" visible. I think the fabric choices here are versatile for different settings, and on their own have enough personality as well.
     
  14. Bandwagonesque

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    -Navy windowpane...despite what I said above about navy, I like the base navy color of this quite a bit. It's got a slight greycast to it, and it's not so magenta-infused blue that most navy's are. Next time I update the swatches with the tweeds, I'll throw this back into the mix.

    That's a shame about the solid navy; however, I really like the navy-windowpane (with the grey undertone) that you've worn in a few pics. It's enough to make me look past the omission of a solid navy. It just looks kick ass.
     
  15. Jovan

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    I'm really interested in the PoW check... though I wish your trousers were more to my taste so I could make a suit of it. Would be nice to have a more "traditional" trouser to go along with the two button if you ever make it.
     
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    Wow, I just had to come out of lurk mode to say that this seems like a great opportunity for poor students like me that REALLY new to start building a serious, but also stylish wardrobe.

    Thanks for this!
     
  17. Jovan

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    $400 is still too much for a lot of students! [​IMG]
     
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    Well, I didn't say that I wasn't going to be poor after buying one. I just won't be as poor! [​IMG]
     
  19. Jared

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    I'm more into neutral suit palettes now so that you can wear a bright shirt/tie with it and not have all the EQ levels cranked to 10.....or you can wear it more classically with white shirt/simple tie, which evokes more of a "60s cool" vibe, esp if you throw in a white hanky with a TV-fold showing just under .25" visible. I think the fabric choices here are versatile for different settings, and on their own have enough personality as well.
    Yeah, you seen to have done an excellent job of walking the fine line. But me and skalogre want to know what each of those personalities is! I'm used to chosing fabric from one or more of these criteria: Can I wear it to work? Can I get a deal on it? Do I like how it looks in person? But none of those apply here, so I'm digging for guidance. [​IMG] I know nothing about mod style and little about clothes, but how about I tell you what comes to mind when I look at the swatches and you can tell me how wrong I am:
    • The black, charcoal, and grey worsteds are for your friends and guys from Streetwear who don't have many other suits and need something with maximum versatility. Or the minimalists.
    • The flannels are surprising for a line based out of LA, but I'm guessing they have historical accuracy? They're for the three-button, which is, you mentioned, intended to be coarser and more casual.
    • The olive worsteds provide the most overt retro look, like brown as discussed recently in MC.
    • The Prince of Wales is your personal favourite check. [​IMG]
    • The grey pinstripe is for your dream that someone will wear a TAT suit to work. [​IMG]
     
  20. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    [*]The black, charcoal, and grey worsteds are for your friends and guys from Streetwear who don't have many other suits and need something with maximum versatility. Or the minimalists. [*]The flannels are surprising for a line based out of LA, but I'm guessing they have historical accuracy? They're for the three-button, which is, you mentioned, intended to be coarser and more casual. [*]The olive worsteds provide the most overt retro look, like brown as discussed recently in MC. [*]The Prince of Wales is your personal favourite check. [​IMG] [*]The grey pinstripe is for your dream that someone will wear a TAT suit to work. [​IMG][/list]
    damn, that's pretty spot on. esp point #4 actually my friends liked the plaids, checks, and stripes the most. But point #1 is right there, maximum versatility and for those who like the 'coolness' of minimalism Re: #5...I think that my 3 button is totally appro for many workplaces....even the one button in a more creative environment. Considering the sartorial dumbing down of the workplace, I would think ANY kind of suit these days would be considered a step up from the bad "business casual" that's rampant for someone who "doesnt know much about mod or clothes" you've got my intents sorted out pretty well
     

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