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these doc martens I got for cheap

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Fat-Elvis, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. Fat-Elvis

    Fat-Elvis Senior member

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    I picked up a pair of the "classic" cherry red 8-hole doc martens earlier, and I'm debating whether or not I should keep them. For one thing I didn't know they're now made in china until I brought them back. Well thats a bunch of shit. How is the quality of these, really? Also, I got them just for the sake of having some doc martens (before I knew) and thought I might be able to pull these, off but I'm not sure how. What do you wear red boots with? Is there maybe a way to treat them to make them a bit darker/browner or something if I so desired? [​IMG]
     
  2. bbaquiran

    bbaquiran Senior member

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    I've been buying UK-made Docs off Ebay because the China and Thai Docs quality isn't very nice (crooked and sloppy seams, mostly).

    Check out GetSmart's WAYWTs from last year for ideas on how to wear them.
     
  3. Get Smart

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    honestly, unless you are a skin I dont really see the appeal of wearing cherry red docs. They carry a lot of baggage with them if you arent down. The black ones are much more democratic and carry less tribal stigma

    the 8 hole 1460s are the classic "bovver boot", esp in the oxblood/cherry reds
     
  4. Fat-Elvis

    Fat-Elvis Senior member

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    the hell's a skin?
     
  5. Get Smart

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    ^^ exactly why I dont get your wanting to rock cherry reds [​IMG]
     
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  6. gamblor

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    Only pic in rather long Wikipedia article on Skinheads:

    [​IMG]
     
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    How cheap did you get them for? Polishing them with black polish would create an oxblood boot, but as said before that's not really a boot that you can easily wear with whatever... it's part of a very specific look. There are Made in England Vintage Collection boots available now, and I believe one of the members here sells them via his ebay shoe store (sf discounts were available). Check the thread about rockabilly for more info. You could of course take this opportunity to reshape your entire wardrobe around these boots?! Start with the Fred Perry and Ben Sherman shirts. [​IMG]
     
  8. Fat-Elvis

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    any good example pics of an oxblood boot/shoe for an idea of what it'd look like?
     
  9. bbaquiran

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    [​IMG] Solovair (used to manufacture for DM).
     
  10. Get Smart

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    You can still get Solovair DM style boots, from UK distros
     
  11. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    these guys know what's up

    [​IMG]

    seriously, if your iPod doesnt consist of heavy doses of Desmond Dekker, The Business, Skatalites, Madness, Cockney Rejects, Templars, etc then Cherry Red docs arent for you
     
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  12. dave

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    the hell's a skin?


    Get rid of them!
     
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    honestly, unless you are a skin I dont really see the appeal of wearing cherry red docs. They carry a lot of baggage with them if you arent down. The black ones are much more democratic and carry less tribal stigma

    While Get Smart is an expert and obviously right, I thought I'd add my opinion that "baggage" associated with something as silly as an article of clothing is something the world could do without, and it's not going to just go away by itself. Good enough reason to wear them already, but also; They look rad?

    Although if you're somewhere/in a community where it's likely to get your head kicked in, you probably want to avoid them.
     
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    OP- I'm not sure you have a clear idea of what cherry docs signify. Docs are part of the "look" for a skinhead, and red clothing typically has very racist connotations pretty much revolving around neo-nazism. White laces in those cherry boots would throw it right over the top. You don't have to get rid of them, just be aware that they represent certain things to some people. It's similar to wearing certain Keffiyeh in that regard.

    Song by The Oppressed (a non-racist Welsh skinhead band)
    "Hes a skinhead, he dont care
    Dr. Marten boots and short cropped hair
    Hes a skinhead, he dont care about you
    Walking down on the Brighton pier
    Long haired hippies filled with fear
    Crunch of bone as the boot goes in
    Joes so proud to be a skin

    (Chorus)

    Prison couldn't change his ways
    Skinheads back hes here to stay
    So if you think you've got the suss
    Be a skinhead, be like us

    (Chorus)

    Hes the king, king of skins
    Whats his name, Joe Hawkins...
     
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  15. Get Smart

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    Oppressed lyrics...nice!

    it's always amazing what random shit pops up on this forum.
     
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    I saw these boots are on piperlime.com while I was getting some shirts off banana republic.com and I had a 10% off code. I was kinda bummed because with the code the shiny black ones where $70. If they black ones had been $50 like the red ones I would have gotten them. For half off retail, I can deal with the lesser quality of the china made ones.

    I personally couldn't see myself wearing red boots of any kind but for half off retail if your gonna wear them, go for it. I know of the stigma that comes with wearing red docs but for the most part your average person doesn't. If you have a shaved head and like to turn up your cuff to show off your salvege seam you might have a problem but unless you live in a area with a large neo nazi crowd, you prob in the clear.
     
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    While Get Smart is an expert and obviously right, I thought I'd add my opinion that "baggage" associated with something as silly as an article of clothing is something the world could do without, and it's not going to just go away by itself. Good enough reason to wear them already, but also; They look rad?

    As a traditionalist, I would prefer they stay with tradition in this case. Baggage and all that comes with it (after all, it's the best part.)

    They are great lookin' boots though. Just be prepared if you choose to wear them. People do ask.
     
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    Just wondering out of curiosity, what IS the message implied by the red docs as opposed to the black ones?
     
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    As a traditionalist, I would prefer they stay with tradition in this case. Baggage and all that comes with it (after all, it's the best part.)


    I'm in this camp. I've always felt that subcultures should self police their scene, as childish and silly as it sounds, I'm not opposed to that concept.

    Just wondering out of curiosity, what IS the message implied by the red docs as opposed to the black ones?

    I've never met anyone wearing cherry red Docs who wasnt into the skinhead scene. Black ones are more ubiquitous, but even back in the mid-later 80s I never saw a guy wearing black Docs that wasnt a punk/skin...it wasnt til the 90s that black Docs became more mainstream and safe, but the cherry red/oxbloods have always remained top skinhead gear.

    I havent "claimed" in years but I still wear my oxbloods with white laces..... but I can handle my shit
     
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