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The Worst WAYWT Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by XeF4, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. XeF4

    XeF4 Senior member

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    Actually one key peice of advice I see often on that forum is to dress to your identity, which is a peice of advice many people here could use. If you are student in America, don't dress like a kid from Stockholm et cetera.
     
  2. Stazy

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    Actually one key peice of advice I see often on that forum is to dress to your identity, which is a peice of advice many people here could use. If you are student in America, don't dress like a kid from Stockholm et cetera.
    Why should your location determine your identity? I live in Canada but dress almost exclusively in European brands. Who cares?
     
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    Why should your location determine your identity?

    I live in Canada but dress almost exclusively in European brands. Who cares?



    QFT. isn't fashion proliferation what the internet is for?
     
  4. LA Guy

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    The aim to these guys' style is the wrong one, in my opinion.
    ....

    That being said, some guys lack confidence, which I definitely understand. If they get condifence through following the teachings of Kinowear, or whatever else, then that's perfectly understandable - I just find the concept of doing it to pick up random chicks slightly... off.
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    It's not just a little off, it's friggin' creepy. The entire premise of that forum is creepy. Imagine saying this to a girl:

    "Hey, I am actually a member of an internet forum called Styleforum. Yeah, I'm pretty interested in fashion" Different, but not creepy. You'd probably get a range of reactions.

    as opposed to:
    "Hey, I'm a member of an internet forum called Kinowear. Yeah, we discuss different ways of picking up women, and how to dress to do so." I'll call you a liar if you tell me that you've done this, and *any* girl has been receptive.
     
  5. Bam!ChairDance

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    Actually one key peice of advice I see often on that forum is to dress to your identity, which is a peice of advice many people here could use. If you are student in America, don't dress like a kid from Stockholm et cetera.
    This does bring up an interesting point though, which is that "style consciousness" often involves a negotiation between standing out and looking really really out of place.

    And that all relates to a question that appears even more often-- whom does someone dress for? If it's purely personal, that it doesn't matter how out-of-place that person dresses, since he only wants to please himself.

    Buuut, if we decide to include the role of societal influences and reactions in the way someone dresses, then XeF4's point matters more-- how do you even evaluate someone's style when it's so astronomically different from what surrounds it? Case in point: Socal's "copper thing", which sparked some negative and some positive comments but mostly ones that tried to figure out where even to begin to critique it.
     
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    ... [​IMG] ...
    Ready for the interview...
     
  8. XeF4

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    This does bring up an interesting point though, which is that "style consciousness" often involves a negotiation between standing out and looking really really out of place. And that all relates to a question that appears even more often-- whom does someone dress for? If it's purely personal, that it doesn't matter how out-of-place that person dresses, since he only wants to please himself. Buuut, if we decide to include the role of societal influences and reactions in the way someone dresses, then XeF4's point matters more-- how do you even evaluate someone's style when it's so astronomically different from what surrounds it? Case in point: Socal's "copper thing", which sparked some negative and some positive comments but mostly ones that tried to figure out where even to begin to critique it.
    Did anybody actually think that we dress up just for the sheer joy and excitement of wearing clothes? SPOILER: We dress to communicate to others who we are. But wait, I don't care about anyones opinion but my own, I don't care about what they think, and I definatley dont need anybody elses approval for what I wear. Sure bucko. While you probably don't need approval, you do care what your boss, friends, girlfriend, and even strangers think of you. Ever wonder to yourself what you should wear to an interview, a date, or a just night on the town? Hell yes you have. So suck it up and understand that you do care about how others see you. It's not a weakness, its a sign showing that you are socially in tune with the rest of the world. So back to the point on identity- Dress acordingly. You are going to grad school to be an investment banker? Maybe wear a long sleeve button up with a sweater, I don' know. But I do know that you are going to look way out of line wearing cutoff shorts and Sperrys.
     
  9. chronoaug

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    Wait wait wait wait.

    I dress to impress the internet. Isn't that what we're supposed to do? I'm confused.
     
  10. Stazy

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    Did anybody actually think that we dress up just for the sheer joy and excitement of wearing clothes? SPOILER: We dress to communicate to others who we are.
    This argument makes sense, your first one does not.
     
  11. YoungM

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    Did anybody actually think that we dress up just for the sheer joy and excitement of wearing clothes?

    SPOILER: We dress to communicate to others who we are.

    But wait, I don't care about anyones opinion but my own, I don't care about what they think, and I definatley dont need anybody elses approval for what I wear.

    Sure bucko. While you probably don't need approval, you do care what your boss, friends, girlfriend, and even strangers think of you. Ever wonder to yourself what you should wear to an interview, a date, or a just night on the town? Hell yes you have. So suck it up and understand that you do care about how others see you. It's not a weakness, its a sign showing that you are socially in tune with the rest of the world. So back to the point on identity- Dress acordingly. You are going to grad school to be an investment banker? Maybe wear a long sleeve button up with a sweater, I don' know. But I do know that you are going to look way out of line wearing cutoff shorts and Sperrys.


    Well, if peer approval, at least from the general populace was what people on this forum wanted, this would be a drastically different forum. A&F and HCO would rule the younger crowd, while Mens Wearhouse and KC shoes would rule the older crowd.

    Many all seem to dress to impress the internet- because, for some strange reason, thats the group we've chosen to impress- myself included. Outside of a lucky few, our clothing choices really don't impress our social circles. I don't really impress my peers, and even my girlfriend thinks a lot of the stuff I wear, or want to wear, is crap.

    What I really wonder about sometimes is how a random forum on teh interwebz managed to brainwash me so completely. But whatevs- I guess I must just roll with it.
     
  12. Shraka

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    Many all seem to dress to impress the internet- because, for some strange reason, thats the group we've chosen to impress- myself included. Outside of a lucky few, our clothing choices really don't impress our social circles. I don't really impress my peers, and even my girlfriend thinks a lot of the stuff I wear, or want to wear, is crap.
    Really? A lot of people think the way I dress is really nice. I've gotten comments from girls like "You are by far the most well dressed man I know." Sure, some people think I over dress sometimes, but it often seems to me that they are just jealous that I can pull it off, and they are too scared to try. Although, I must admit that sometimes people seem do genuinely think I over dress and am too up tight (stuck up, arrogant, whatever). Doesn't bother me because everyone I've met like this I think dress like crap and are lazy slobs. *shrug* Perhaps you just need new friends. [​IMG] My girlfriend loves it all too.
     
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    Well, if peer approval, at least from the general populace was what people on this forum wanted, this would be a drastically different forum. A&F and HCO would rule the younger crowd, while Mens Wearhouse and KC shoes would rule the older crowd.

    Many all seem to dress to impress the internet- because, for some strange reason, thats the group we've chosen to impress- myself included. Outside of a lucky few, our clothing choices really don't impress our social circles. I don't really impress my peers, and even my girlfriend thinks a lot of the stuff I wear, or want to wear, is crap.

    What I really wonder about sometimes is how a random forum on teh interwebz managed to brainwash me so completely. But whatevs- I guess I must just roll with it.

    That's strange, I had a completely different reaction from other people once my wardrobe became "styleforumish". Everyone loved what I was wearing, minus a few scrubs.
     
  14. YoungM

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    I do get compliments, for sure.

    However, a lot of stuff I like gets weird looks from people, and the dreaded ghey comes out.
     
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    Ya I definitely think of how people will react or judge me when I get dressed to go out on the weekends. In fact, everything I pick up is with the intention of crafting a certain perception about me who cares if I actually like the shit.
     
  16. BubblyMasquerade

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    so cal being naughty on that forum.
     
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    I think a phrase better than "self-expression" would be "projection of ones personal aesthetic". For me, the term "Self-expression" seems to open the gate to alot of costumey stuff, and there's always the danger that if a person want to express their unconventionality, they'll choose garments simply by virtue of their unconventionality or outrageousness, rather than because of the fact they project a unified, consistent, yet individual aesthetic.

    And being deliberately unconventional and outrageous is part of what peacocking is, and it isn't anything new. Ya'll act like you don't remember the "cool kid" from high school who mixed his own casual wear with his dad's formal wear all wily-nily. If nothing else, people here need to watch "Sixteen Candles" again.

    As well, the proliferation of A&F and Hollister in high school is at least as much attributable to their ready availability as it is to their trendiness. SF stuff simply doesn't have the same availability, and would naturally be cost-prohibitive to most high schoolers. That doesn't mean that a person who wears A&F would necessarily be so blinkered by the fetishized social value of mall brands that they wouldn't be able to recognize the thought and effort that goes into putting together an SF-approved streetwear outfit, or that a guy who wears Men's Wearhouse wouldn't be able to see the virtues of a superior suit (even if he may not be entirely discerning as to all the precise reasons how it's superior.)

    Not that the two are even comparable, really. Men's Wearhouse is an ersatz knock-off of a long-standing tradition of men's formal wear, and SW&D styles are basically a gentrified version of the t-shirt and jeans casual look that emerged with post-war youth culture.

    As we see time and time again on this board, the ability to appreciate someone else's clothing style does not necessarily equate with a desire to adorn ourselves similarly. Sometimes we don't even have the means to do so. The same holds true, to differing degrees, with the population at large.
     
  18. BubblyMasquerade

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    I think a phrase better than "self-expression" would be "projection of ones personal aesthetic". For me, the term "Self-expression" seems to open the gate to alot of costumey stuff, and there's always the danger that if a person want to express their unconventionality, they'll choose garments simply by virtue of their unconventionality or outrageousness, rather than because of the fact they project a unified, consistent, yet individual aesthetic. And being deliberately unconventional and outrageous is part of what peacocking is, and it isn't anything new. Ya'll act like you don't remember the "cool kid" from high school who mixed his own casual wear with his dad's formal wear all wily-nily. If nothing else, people here need to watch "Sixteen Candles" again. As well, the proliferation of A&F and Hollister in high school is at least as much attributable to their ready availability as it is to their trendiness. SF stuff simply doesn't have the same availability, and would naturally be cost-prohibitive to most high schoolers. That doesn't mean that a person who wears A&F would necessarily be so blinkered by the fetishized social value of mall brands that they wouldn't be able to recognize the thought and effort that goes into putting together an SF-approved streetwear outfit, or that a guy who wears Men's Wearhouse wouldn't be able to see the virtues of a superior suit (even if he may not be entirely discerning as to all the precise reasons how it's superior.) Not that the two are even comparable, really. Men's Wearhouse is an ersatz knock-off of a long-standing tradition of men's formal wear, and SW&D styles are basically a gentrified version of the t-shirt and jeans casual look that emerged with post-war youth culture. As we see time and time again on this board, the ability to appreciate someone else's clothing style does not necessarily equate with a desire to adorn ourselves similarly. Sometimes we don't even have the means to do so. The same holds true, to differing degrees, with the population at large.
    one sentence summary plz.
     
  19. chronoaug

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    tl;dr



    One of these days you'll all wake up and realize impressing me is all that matters
     
  20. tagutcow

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    one sentence summary plz.

    My point was that in discussions of human origins, the works of Teilard de Chardin are often ignored, to our peril.
     

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