The What Are You Wearing Today (WAYWT) Discussion Thread, Part II

[Benesyed]

I like the jeans and boots but I think the t shirt is too oversized /weirdly shaped in foo fit

 

[nevergreen]

I saw you laughed at my last fit. In interest of understanding: what is so bad about what I was wearing versus what you’re wearing here?

Mate if you took away the jeans and boots you'd look like my GF going to bed wearing my tshirt

 

[TheFoo]

Tool vs. cool

Noveau riche vs. young creative

2010s looking ahh streetwear silhouette vs. tonally consistent and balanced rule of 3rds

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The list goes on but I honestly don't understand how you're not seeing these things yourself.
Like if you're attempting any kind of style, as I'm sure you'd agree, it serves you well to know some of its history and traditional rules/guidelines.

From what I know you have a reputation on the forum as someone who's willing to spend a lot on what you perceive as the best, and despite various memes I believe you have a good grasp on classic tailoring. It's also well known that you're rich, so when you've taken the a fast journey from expensive menswear to SLP, Chrome Hearts and worn band tees, it can be perceived as "inauthentic" (and it doesn't matter that authenticity is a meaningless term, the vibes still apply).

That feeling is further amplied when the examples we've seen of you wearing SW&D feel like 10-15 year old trends at this point, resulting in an overall impression of this:

@nevergreen on the other hand has been posting for years, with a style long rooted in earthy tones, interesting textures and workwear-adjacent details and silhouettes. The "evolution" of his outfits has happened gradually over time, with a clear red thread in figuring out what he likes and dislikes. Iirc he used to dress in slimmer clothes, as did a lot of us, but for a few years the trends and style overall has swung back in favor of larger and looser proportions and to some degree he has followed suit, while still staying "true" to what his style is.

If you want even more specifics of why his fits are nice, as far as I would guess/analyze/opinionate:
- Both follow the rule of 3rds, a flattering silhouette in both classic menswear and streetwear
- In the first fit the shirt is more graphic, so he's paired it with some visually simpler black jeans and footwear. The tan belt picks up on the colors of the shirt and the consistent metal accessories throughout tie everything together.
- In the second fit the pants are the focus point, with a nice blue color and a larger more distinct silhouette. Because of this he has paired them with a simpler shirt, no patterns but still some nice texture to it to go with the denim. The volume of the trousers is further balanced with some chunky shoes, that also connect in warmer tones with the shirt.

Much of this simply tells me that you are judging me, not what I’m wearing. My socioeconomic status should be irrelevant, as should be my profession or whatever you are imagining about my motivations or knowledge. Really, this sort of flagrant and personal prejudice should have no place here or anywhere else.

But putting that aside best I can, everything else you said is still nonsense:

2010s looking ahh streetwear silhouette vs. tonally consistent and balanced rule of 3rds

Does it matter how much an outfit draws from prior trend or fashion? Is 2010’s streetwear somehow worse than 2000’s workwear?

But also, I don’t remember massively oversized tops being part of fashionable streetwear 5+ years ago. Even just looking at FoG specifically: the t-shirts have evolved over time to only recently becoming this big.

As for “tonal consistency”: since when is this a superior aesthetic virtue in and of itself? Outfits can be more tonally consistent or more tonally contrasting / dynamic. Either can be good or bad, depending on execution. Moreover, really not sure in what sense a grey shirt can be considered tonally inconsistent with black jeans. Come on dude.

“Balanced rule of thirds” is a bizarre invocation of classicism in this context. But okay, let’s go with it: in all aesthetic compositions, slavish and rote adherence to the rule of thirds is just as bad as working in complete ignorance of it.

An even bigger point: if you want to be a classicist, at least be a more sophisticated and competent one. You invoke the rule of thirds but then pay no attention to classical notions of the ideal male physique. Wearing “balanced” volume all over erases one’s waist and destroys the impression of a strongly built upper body. Better to show more contrast in volume to imply more about the physique underneath (if we’re being classicists about it).

Now, to be clear, I’m not suggesting it’s better to be a classicist here, but I am suggesting that you don’t know what you’re talking about on the matter.

It's also well known that you're rich, so when you've taken the a fast journey from expensive menswear to SLP, Chrome Hearts and worn band tees, it can be perceived as "inauthentic" (and it doesn't matter that authenticity is a meaningless term, the vibes still apply)

Lol and now you think you know my detailed biography based on what you can glean from internet postings? Not that it should matter, I have been an Hedi Slimane admirer since he started at Dior when I was in college and could not dream of affording his clothes. I’ve been regularly wearing SLP / Celine for ~7-8 years. I’ve been wearing band tees since I was 12 (three decades ago!).

 

[troika]

Are you trying to hear honest critique or just ask people for feedback then argue with them about how you're actually more correct?

 

[TheFoo]

Are you trying to hear honest critique or just ask people for feedback then argue with them about how you're actually more correct?

As I pointed out: his was not “honest critique.”

 

[LA Guy]

As I pointed out: his was not “honest critique.”

You could just consider a more fitted shirt, I think. The oversized everything FoG look is pretty full commitment, and a single piece in an outfit that is not close aesthetically is tough to pull off. I think that @hendrix suggested a cropped tee, but b that’s hard to pull off without some more height.

Re. extra pairs of boots, I don’t see why not. I always have a few pairs of Ann Demeulemeester low top gert sneakers around.

 

[Iskander]

I think this has to be one of the better photo angles I’ve taken so obligatory post

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What's the shirt? I dig it

 

[Benesyed]

You could just consider a more fitted shirt, I think. The oversized everything FoG look is pretty full commitment, and a single piece in an outfit that is not close aesthetically is tough to pull off. I think that @hendrix suggested a cropped tee, but b that’s hard to pull off without some more height.

Re. extra pairs of boots, I don’t see why not. I always have a few pairs of Ann Demeulemeester low top gert sneakers around.

I agree I just think that t shirt is bad. I only ever see it on Internet influencer chicks so that's a bad connotation but then I think it throws your proportions off in a bad way.

Would be cool to see it with a different proportioned shirt

 

[StanleyVanBuren]

As I pointed out: his was not “honest critique.”

ridiculous statement. no one is trolling you. even @nahneun gave you a sincere response

 

[hendrix]

Can we **** off with the cool not cool talk thanks.

This is an internet forum about men's fashion and canvased suits and triple welt shoes.

No one here is cool.

Everyone here is objectively rich in a global context.

 

[hendrix]

ridiculous statement. no one is trolling you. even @nahneun gave you a sincere response

"you're just not cool" and "nouveau riche" and random comments about being rich are not sincere nor useful critiques.

 

[FlyingHorker]

You could just consider a more fitted shirt, I think. The oversized everything FoG look is pretty full commitment, and a single piece in an outfit that is not close aesthetically is tough to pull off. I think that @hendrix suggested a cropped tee, but b that’s hard to pull off without some more height.

Re. extra pairs of boots, I don’t see why not. I always have a few pairs of Ann Demeulemeester low top gert sneakers around.

Hmm, is it because it would look too stocky or wide?

If so, is that necessarily a bad thing? It would look more coherent.

 

[gettoasty]

What's the shirt? I dig it

Shirt is from The Anthology. I made a short post in the SF forum thread. Thanks!

@Benesyed how do you like those sandals? Fit TTS? I have a pair of their fisherman sandals 42, and think I might’ve been fine with 41.5. The strap helps so I’m not too concerned. Trying to extrapolate and see if I’m the same size across all their footwear (jacquessoloviereparis.com)

 

[OccultaVexillum]

Tbh I think @kindofyoung diatribe is just not at all fun. Nor helpful.
This is the kind of hyper specific, irrelevant minutiae that makes “enjoying clothes” not enjoyable at all.
Not everything needs abstract, or concrete, dissection and explanation.
It’s ok for cool s**t to be cool and bad stuff to suck and for that to be the extent of it.
And Foo I just think that your fit sucks because it sucks and the angle also makes your hand look like that of a hobbit.
And all of that that’s ok too. I have fits that suck. It’s part of “trying stuff”.

 

[Benesyed]

Shirt is from The Anthology. I made a short post in the SF forum thread. Thanks!

@Benesyed how do you like those sandals? Fit TTS? I have a pair of their fisherman sandals 42, and think I might’ve been fine with 41.5. The strap helps so I’m not too concerned. Trying to extrapolate and see if I’m the same size across all their footwear (jacquessoloviereparis.com)

I think I could have sized down 1 on this model