The WAYWT Discussion Thread

[the shah]

what about sticking to only one set of rules and ignoring others because they make you uncomfortable ? that makes you something or other, not sure what though !

 

[Bam!ChairDance]



There are always rules in balancing "art" elements. Photography, architecture, clothing... They're all similar. Not knowing or disregarding the rules doesn't make you right, simply ignorant.

Yes, and asymmetry, contrast, and imbalance have as much purpose in art as strict balance. Not sure why this is difficult for you to grasp.

 

[acecow]



Yes, and asymmetry, contrast, and imbalance have as much purpose in art as strict balance. Not sure why this is difficult for you to grasp.

It is not. There are beautiful examples of that. But when they're done by amateurs, they mostly look like ****. Not sure why this is difficult for you to grasp.
Before breaking the rules, first you have to master them.

 

[GoldenTribe]



If you like that outfit, then there's nothing to discuss. We're almost as far apart in the fashion world as it's possible.
There are always rules in balancing "art" elements. Photography, architecture, clothing... They're all similar. Not knowing or disregarding the rules doesn't make you right, simply ignorant.

Do you derive your rules from your autism?

Edit: hmm, I thought robinsongreen68's posts were also by you.

 

[acecow]

By all means, continue pairing strong-shouldered jackets with t-shirts if it makes you happy.

 

[Bam!ChairDance]

Go away

 

[acecow]



Go away

I simply stated my opinions on the subject and hendrix's fit. He may listen to them or not, that's his choice. For all the subjectivity that you wish me to show, you sure cannot accept my opinion as something that may be correct. Hypocrisy much?
In other words, piss off child.

 

[Bam!ChairDance]

I liked our conversation about Hendrix's fit while it was still calm and thoughtful (in other words: your first post and my reply), but then you got all nasty like you usually do.

So yeah. Go away.

 

[brad-t]

Can you go back to MC already? You post here under the guide of open-mindlessness and wanting to learn more yet you still vocally apply your narrow viewpoint to everyone here! If you can't participate in a discussion without simply asserting your own rightness incessantly, can you at least shut the **** up?

 

[johanm]



Cool, so there are two assumptions here, which I'll tackle one at a time
1. Structured shoulders require stronger lines below to balance them
I disagree. I find the contrast of structured shoulders with "unstructured" elements like sweaters or tees creates an energy that I think is pretty sweet. Often attempts at balancing structure succeed only at watering it down, which bores me
2. The presence of a collar and a placket is needed to provide balance
Again, this is a point with roots in social convention rather than aesthetics. Assuming that dramatic shoulders require balance to begin with, a collar/placket aren't the only elements that can do so. Below is a fit pic from an SZ dude to illustrate. Here, the severe shoulders are balanced by strict tailoring elsewhere, such as the skinny arms + jeans. The longsleeve pullover has neither a placket nor collar, and yet the fit still doesn't seem unbalanced.

Spoiler: sz pic

Oh, and here's another example from Stephan Schneider that I'm including just because it's awesome. It lacks the "traditional" collar/placket to balance the heavy shoulders and instead uses a top made from very thin jersey fabric, which creates a really cool sense of energy

Spoiler: schneider pic

To be fair, neither of your pics show a concave "pagoda" shoulder like the one in Hendrix's fit. Rather, they show flat / extended shoulders which are often associated with slouchy fits. Many of the famous Neapolitan bespoke tailors as well as Anderson & Sheppard use the latter type of shoulder (with or without roping).

 

[Lane]



If you like that outfit, then there's nothing to discuss. We're almost as far apart in the fashion world as it's possible.
There are always rules in balancing "art" elements. Photography, architecture, clothing... They're all similar. Not knowing or disregarding the rules doesn't make you right, simply ignorant.

youre stating your opinion like an arrogant twat though

 

[the shah]

for what it's worth i don't think he makes a bad point about a replacing the tshirt with a shirt, but casual and untucked of course. would like nice too

 

[acecow]



I liked our conversation about Hendrix's fit while it was still calm and thoughtful (in other words: your first post and my reply), but then you got all nasty like you usually do.
So yeah. Go away.

Can you go back to MC already? You post here under the guide of open-mindlessness and wanting to learn more yet you still vocally apply your narrow viewpoint to everyone here! If you can't participate in a discussion without simply asserting your own rightness incessantly, can you at least shut the **** up?

You are being very impolite. You shouldn't act here differently than you would in real life just because you're hidden behind a computer and not face to face with me.
I am allowed to post my opinions and participate in discussions, no? I was under the impression I wasn't insulting anyone's intelligence, rather posting my opinions. Also, being open-minded and liking everything mindlessly are two different things in my mind. I will never like very structured jackets in casual and relaxed fits, because they don't look relaxed.

FWIW, here's my reply to hendrix's fit in the MC Casual thread (sorry for the broken english, didn't proof-read):

The fit is superb, but the strong shoulders on the jacket clash with the informality of the deep v-neck. A crew-neck would be much better, as well as have a less structured jacket. I'd remove the pocket square, as it looks like you're trying too hard, t-shirt and all... The pants are marvelous, and the shoes are MC-subjectively ugly, but whatever strikes your fancy there. The main problem is the shoulders on the jacket.

 

[Bam!ChairDance]

Responding to your first post was such a mistake.

It's like signing up for cat facts

Except no fun at all

 

[noob in 89]



Can you go back to MC already? You post here under the guide of open-mindlessness...