yeah, i picked up the shorts on ebay with the intention of eventually getting some merino baselayer tights and wearing them underneath. Was looking at smartwool (i swear by their socks for running, hiking, etc.) but was having a hard time finding anything but black in my size. I also looked at icebreaker (another good merino outdoor clothing company) but again nothing but black. These ibex ones are a nice dark, heathered charcoal, and as an added plus they are the only ones of those that are made in the USA. They are really comfy, but im sure no more so than the other options would be. I was kinda hoping isa ora would have a nice option this season but i decided not to wait and just got the ibexs.