Hey, everyone has their own opinion about it and I respect that. It really is just try hard in my opinion though, and unnecessary. Most guys I know agree as well and most girls think it looks douchey. If you're wearing it to be 'jacked', you're obviously not, as a short sleeve shirt shows off your physique just fine. If you're wearing it as a fashion statement, how does a lesser amount of clothes equate to more fashion? If anything I sort of like the winter here so I CAN wear long sleeves and pants. It reminds me of guys in a gym (that go once a week) but deem it necessary to completely deck out in clima-lite gear. EDIT: Yeah, BTW Snow I wasn't trying to turn this into some argument or anything insulting to you. Like I said, your bottom half looks GREAT and you even say it was for a BBQ at your house which is a place where I think that fits fine. I'm talking more about the tools that wear tanks out to a restaurant or to the movies.