manofkent, those smiths are pretty nice but I'm not really a fan of the cargoes. I feel like you still need a bit higher of a rise for optimal proportions due to your height. I'm inclined to agree. I'll probably give them one last go sagged with an untucked shirt but if that doesn't work I'll have a look around for some others. Last week: Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Looks alright from what I can make out, but that's not a great deal... It's still cold with rain and snow here, so the Cameraman has been ideal. USN MFSC Sunny Sports Universal Works Nigel Cabourn ConexRoy RW Looks great. I love that sweater.