The WAYWT Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Eason, Feb 1, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. CBrown85

    CBrown85 Senior member

    Messages:
    4,987
    Likes Received:
    646
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2009
    He's rightfully pissed that the folks who go on and on about how fitted jeans, oxfords and desert boots are the be-all-end-all of 'style' don't see any other possible way and has already tacitly acknowledged that others can still maintain these 'preppy' or 'workwear' based aesthetics but need to do so with edge and imagination for them to be worthy of his attention and praise (or tolerance?). It's just a shame that most people don't have the intelligence or the brooding self-confidence of a Fuuma or mellowfellow or whoever else is an internet-personality/minor celebrity to be able to construct or properly discuss these looks.

    To be honest, I blame the all-round lack of culture that many of our posters seem to be experiencing. Growing up in the suburbs being only surrounded by malls and made-in-China really make something seemingly as authentic as workwear or the old-money prep look appealing. It's borrowed nostalgia and while I see it as kinda empty, I don't think it's really worthy of the seething hate that it often gets on the forum. That said, a lot of those guys come on and blather on about how gay they thing Uncontrol looks or that the sleeves on someone's Jil suit is too fucking long and don't realize that they lack the self-awareness to be able to justifiably criticize those looks. They're future MCers, as Fuuma basically pointed out.
     


  2. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

    Messages:
    25,918
    Likes Received:
    10,528
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2004
    What you didn't like the bad guy in Karate Kid or something? Date Rapist....waaa?. The all black wearing thing would be more akin to that. No disrespect (although you need to put down the thesaurus) intended but it's a style like everyone else's here. I don't understand the hate towards it. I am far from preppy but I still incorporate pieces of it in my wardrobe
    English isn't even my first language and I write 99% of what I post very quickly and without re-reading to validate it makes sense and is properly written. If you think what I write is too convoluted you need to pick up the thesaurus. Are you seriously asking me to write in a more mediocre manner? "it's a style" is a meaningless argument. Sure it is but styles are associated with certain things and generate some emotions and associations into their wearers and viewers (let's call this the "expressionism" angle) while also being a combination of textures, volumes and colours (let's call this the "formalism" angle-yeah I'm stealing from fine arts). I find the expressionist angle in preppy styles to go against my values to the point of being ideologically repugnant and the formalist angle to be stagnant, lacking in possibilities and too reliant on colour to the detriment of the other elements.
     


  3. Russ24

    Russ24 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Location:
    Hamilton, ON
    Yes.

    +1.
     


  4. Synthese

    Synthese Darth Millennial Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    8,371
    Likes Received:
    29,243
    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Location:
    COLONY WORLD 21XX


  5. Russ24

    Russ24 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Location:
    Hamilton, ON
    Lots of action tonight. Im going to interrupt with a noob fit- don't kill me... Ive posted 2 others and havent gotten ripped apart yet, haha. This is no where near what some of you are rocking... but Im trying. I guess its a poor man's take on Synthese's fit a couple pages back. Ha. Constructive crits would be great...
    (Apologies for the iPhone pics, dont have a legit camera- grad school money is tight.)

    [​IMG]

    Deets on the boots:
    [​IMG]
     


  6. brad-t

    brad-t Bae Blade

    Messages:
    18,535
    Likes Received:
    19,353
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2008
    English isn't even my first language and I write 99% of what I post very quickly and without re-reading to validate it makes sense and is properly written. If you think what I write is too convoluted you need to pick up the thesaurus. Are you seriously asking me to write in a more mediocre manner?

    "it's a style" is a meaningless argument. Sure it is but styles are associated with certain things and generate some emotions and associations into their wearers and viewers (let's call this the "expressionism" angle) while also being a combination of textures, volumes and colours (let's call this the "formalism" angle-yeah I'm stealing from fine arts). I find the expressionist angle in preppy styles to go against my values to the point of being ideologically repugnant and the formalist angle to be stagnant, lacking in possibilities and too reliant on colour to the detriment of the other elements.


    ok but, like, that's just your opinion, man
     


  7. CBrown85

    CBrown85 Senior member

    Messages:
    4,987
    Likes Received:
    646
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2009
    ok but, like, that's just your opinion, man

    [​IMG] fuck what's that from
     


  8. lmaozedong

    lmaozedong Senior member

    Messages:
    3,457
    Likes Received:
    4,048
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    I like some workwear and heritage outfit, I just can't stand the onslaught of pontificating about timelessness many of them brought on the board.

    I think the key here is the past tense. I can see how Humperdink would say this is a straw man, as posters like this don't really seem to take too much part in the discussions here anymore--and when they do, they're pretty quickly written off.

    thanks to everyone who commented on my fit, yeah the pants probably could use a hem. i have like 6 pairs of pants that need a hem and these are the least offending of them all, too lazy to go to the tailor [​IMG]
     


  9. Knisse

    Knisse Senior member

    Messages:
    923
    Likes Received:
    20
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2010
    Location:
    Denmark
    [​IMG] fuck what's that from

    Big Lebowski
     


  10. Humperdink

    Humperdink Senior member

    Messages:
    381
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2007
    Location:
    Cobble Hill
    redundant. forum's moving too fast on a Sunday night.
     


  11. bows1

    bows1 Senior member

    Messages:
    4,670
    Likes Received:
    6,086
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2008
    Location:
    Brooklyn
    What's she wearing?

    Skirt is Rick, jacket is vintage fur, everything underneath the jacket is Rogan.
     


  12. cowsareforeating

    cowsareforeating Senior member

    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    197
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Location:
    SF BAY
    Lots of action tonight. Im going to interrupt with a noob fit- don't kill me... Ive posted 2 others and havent gotten ripped apart yet, haha. This is no where near what some of you are rocking... but Im trying. I guess its a poor man's take on Synthese's fit a couple pages back. Ha. Constructive crits would be great... (Apologies for the iPhone pics, dont have a legit camera- grad school money is tight.) [​IMG] Deets on the boots:
    [​IMG]

    not bad, need better camera/angle/lighting BUTTTT i think the chunky oversized scarf needs to be all the way over your clothes. not half over half under as it looks in the pic, otherwise, a solid fit not a fan of the watch but w/e
     


  13. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

    Messages:
    25,918
    Likes Received:
    10,528
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2004
    I agree. I know that the "rules of style" mindset is not only still present on the forum, but that every once in awhile there's a new influx of mindless, swag-less, closet misogynist SW&D posters who lust over photos of Steve McQueen and James Dean in well-worn jean jackets. But, styleforum SW&D has moved past that over a year ago. Only braidkid (rip) in absentia and chronoaug seem to still be railing against the infrequent "timeless style" debates on a forum populated with guys wearing Ann-D boots, drop-crotch wjk sweats, Julius and Rick O leathers, and who are praised in recent purchases for picking up an obscure Junya-collab blazer or CCP dip-dyed boots, etc. Despite all the asinine commentary, the current active contributers on SW&D WAYWTD have been the most diverse and interesting in the three years that I've lurked on this forum.
    I'm probably unlucky then because I check this thread 1-2/week and, quite often I get to see someone bringing up that shit and I really can't stand it anymore. I dunno but, while I do check superfuture much more rarely, whenever I search for something like Nigel Cabourn or engineered garment there they seem to be more open minded about what they like vs what other people like. I just wish this stupid topic could be buried, I wonder what'll happen when heritage gets thrown out of the fashion spotlight and its proponents realize it wasn't any more timeless than goth drape (maybe less cause the later has been going on since the 80s). I'm guessing many will jump ship (and that's fine) and others will soldier on with a clearer sense of what they like about it. What's sad with all this and which might get lost in my posting is that I don't see a problem with liking some pics of James Dean or dudes in raw denim with big cuffs photographed in the 50s. I just think that right now it and the MC equivalent bring out the worst in less discerning minds.
     


  14. Russ24

    Russ24 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Location:
    Hamilton, ON
    not bad, need better camera/angle/lighting
    BUTTTT

    i think the chunky oversized scarf needs to be all the way over your clothes. not half over half under as it looks in the pic, otherwise, a solid fit

    not a fan of the watch but w/e


    Thanks. Ya the watch is a bit dated. Im trying to find better places to take pics, but my apt. has pretty dim lighting, esp. after dark. Thanks for the tip on the scarf.
     


  15. sipang

    sipang Senior member

    Messages:
    6,987
    Likes Received:
    9,869
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2009
    I tried on this Marni one but I was wearing a cashmere overcoat+silk scarf+flannel suit+french patinated shoes so it looked out of place and I never came back for it. It's pretty fucking dope.

    OMG I got one !

    [​IMG]


    I just wish this stupid topic could be buried, I wonder what'll happen when heritage gets thrown out of the fashion spotlight and its proponents realize it wasn't any more timeless than goth drape (maybe less cause the later has been going on since the 80s). I'm guessing many will jump ship (and that's fine) and others will soldier on with a clearer sense of what they like about it.

    This, THIS !
     


Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by