The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    why would that be funny? I don't see the joke in it.

    He said he purchased a second hand watch from abroad. I wanted to know if he got the VAT back and what country he purchased it from.
     


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    LOL my bad- jokes on me. I thought you meant second hand, as in smaller-than-minute hand. I thought you were being dismissive of the watch for not having a second hand. A lot of people do that against Panerai...
    This goes to say that Stitches' watch looks utterly new; lucky him.
     
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  3. in stitches

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    i purchased it from a seller who had a listing on rolex forum. i think its am american forum, so the watch was listed in US dollars, and i made the wire in USD as well, even though the seller is in canada. so, as far as i can tell, there was no VAT involved. i imagine he didnt charge a VAT as he was selling abroad.


    i understood you. :)


    lol that is funny. and yes, its pretty much brand new, nary a sign of wear, and had all the original boxes, papers, even the factory stickers and bar codes...
     
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    yes, it is certainly a sports watch. i usually wear my JLC squadra hometime with dress attire. but, as you said, within the jewelry industry there is a little more leeway with what watch you wear and how you dress, then again, where i work, no one cares about these things besides me anyways.

    but still, even though i know its a sports watch, i rock it with dress attire. thats MAH STEEZ!!!!!!

    though i doubt id wear it with a suit.


    yes, i know. ;)
     


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    sidebar - i just heard back from one of the ADs i contacted, who hadnt gotten back to me in over a week, i had given up on him. they are an AD for panerai and he said he can get me the watch NIB fully stamped and with warranty and all that jazz for about 4700 including taxes.

    too late for me, but if anyone wants in, id be happy to proxy for ya! lmk.
     


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    Where da porn at stitchy?
     


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    how did you feel about wiring funds?
    I am considering purchasing a watch from italy, but they won't refund VAT, and they want the funds to be wired.

    What protection does the buyer have when wiring funds abroad?

    Stitch - what protection did you have when wiring that the watch would get to you and work? What if it did not work? or Not as described (NAD)?
     
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    If I might stick my two pennr'th in: if something is used, it is not normally subject to VAT again at resale if it was VAT-paid to start with. There may be no VAT to refund if this is a private re-seller, who is neither VAT-registered, nor charging VAT in the first place.

    As for protection, knowing someone's land/office telephone number, and full name from sending the money via a service that requires them to present ID (Western Union etc), helps as a deterrent for them from running off with your money. But there's got to be a degree of trust involved. I'd be happier if I'd also spoken to someone in their place of work, and exchanged some emails recording who is going to send what to whom.
     


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    They shouldn't charge VAT if selling outside of the EU.
     


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    lol do they also wear oakleys?



    and posting pictures of yourself at CrossFit.



    If you guys are being serious, do you guys feel the same way when people use the term "gay" as an insult? (i.e. "say brah you didn't go to the party, thats gay. the beeches were going cray cray" )



    That's nice, of you Stitch, hope someone jumps at the opportunity!
     


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    Whooo hooo!!!!. I just got my bumper movement Constellation back from servicing (I dropped it off in April :(). One nice thing I learned is that mine is from 1952, which is the first year of the model's introduction. Mine looks like this, except it has a honeycomb dial, rather than the pie-pan. The indexes are the same and they are my favorite part. Case, crown and hands are the same.
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    I have another version, with the pie-pan dial, but that is a regular automatic rather than the bumper movement.
     
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    posted a few pages ago. :)

    here is another!

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    well, that is a very good question, i worried about that greatly at first, and less at the end. let me give you a long boring answer.

    first off, i am pretty sure, almost certain, anytime someone is shipping out of their country to the US, they should not, and possibly can not, charge you VAT. you should see what is up with that with them. put it on the table clear as can be, and make sure you get a satisfactory answer. i have bought numerous things fro abroad, including a pair of CJs i just bought over the phone yesterday, direct from a CJ store, and i never paid VAT when shipping to the US.

    when you wire funds your protection is pretty minimal. the money goes out of your account and into their. direct. not through a CC like with PP, so there is no one to take back the funds, or hold them in case of dispute. you would have to make a whole case about it, and that would probably involve international law, and you would have to track the person down, and prove it is the person that defrauded you..... not a simple task. basically, you are fucked.

    so essentially, i had little to no protection.

    WHY DID YOU DO IT STICTH??! you may ask.

    well, when i first emailed the guy, he replied with his phone number, and i asked him to call me instead. and he did. we spoke for about a half an hour, he was clearly in the watch business, he had over 1k posts on rolex forum and had been around there a while.

    then, he gave me his actual name, and told me to google him, and do my research before agreeing to the sale. i did, and i got a bunch of hits from various watch related internet forums and trading sites, and his reputation was sterling. even Warren G here, knew of him and said he was legit. then, when he gave me the wire info, he gave me his full personal name, phone number, address, and banking information.

    now, could this have been a con, and someone impersonating him that also had all his info.... not likely. a lot to go through for a relatively small con. but a chance certainly. by the time i decided to pay, i felt through my due diligence i was making a safe choice, and i turned out right. the seller could not be beter guy and i highly recommend him.

    basically, when making a person to person transaction cross countries, by wire, the only thing you have is your gut, and the confidence you have in the seller. at present, i ordered a tie from a bespoke italian dude i stumbled upon on tumblr. its very hard to talk with hm, as he is italian and his english is pretty bad. he wants more money because the bank charged him a fee (BS in my opinion, he should have known that when he gave me the price, but that is neither here nor there) and i said only paypal, he said he will get me his paypal info, been 2 days, and nothing.

    in this case, i wasnt super confident to beging with, but confident enough, and it was a lot less money, so i did it. might i get screwed? i hope not, but maybe. its unlikely, he sent me swatch set pics and everything, he has a nice website... but still, he could screw me since i have minimal recourse. or he could be bogus entirely. who knows.

    so, tl;rd, you need to do your homework and take it from there. PM me if you want to talk further.

    :)
     
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    My nephews have combined the two, and use the abusive gem "gaytard".
     


  14. in stitches

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    1. i have 4 pairs of oakleys

    2. i do not have a crossfit

    3. it depends on the context. but better safe than sorry on the internet, never know how your words will be taken.

    4. my pleasure!

    :)


    awesome, would love to see a pic of yours now that its back!
     


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    Beautiful.
     


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