Hi Hayward, I like how Sinns look, but the ETA movements bother me. As for the money saved by not using a "finer movement" or developing an in House movement and the fundss going into, case, dial and bracelet design, couldn't that be said of most companies buying & using ETA movements? Not being able to pull the trigger on nice watches that use ETAs as a base may be a flaw with me ; ) I came close to buying a Cartier Santos Galbee XL and on another occasion an IWC pilot watch", but I couldn't get over the ETA movements. I think Seiko makes some greatc watches. An acquaintance of mine has a really nice one. Although I tend to favor Swiss watches over Japanese or German brands (actually the only German watch I'd really like to own some day is a Lange One). But maybe someday I'll add a Japanese and German watch to my collection.