Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.
Nope. Less than $2k BNIB
Well, to be honest, motivation by a watch's looks is incredibly important! In fact, it is arguably the most important factor in buying a watch. As far as I am concerned, I would rather wear a watch that I love to look at than one that I can't stand the look of, but is horologically interesting. So don't think that is dumb.
If the Capeland that you listed sings to you, then don't be ashamed of your choice. They are beautifully finished, and the watch you posted is an interesting variation on the standard Valjoux. If that watch was a grand or two cheaper, I would be much more interested in it. Aesthetically I find it very pleasing. B&M may be a bit overpriced, but I do not find the mechanics "sub-optimal." So what I am trying to say, is that if you like the B&M, don't reconsider based on us. There is a great article in a recent Watch Time about the watch, and it had nothing but good things to say about it.
As for moonphases, I love them, but I can understand how they are not for everyone.
My final piece of advice is start browsing through the WAYWRN threads on watchuseek, and get some ideas. I think Zenith would be right up your alley, along with a lot of the new Omegas. JLC may be a bit bland for your taste. Also, perhaps some of the lower lines of IWC? $5,000 is a great range for watches. Additionally, you may want to think of used as well, $5,000 used opens a whole lot of doors.
Why not just get a submariner? You've mentioned it twice. Moreover, since you also say you dont plan on learning much about watches, the sub (or perhaps a speedy) are about the safest choices you can make. If you are conscious about the Rolex name, then consider a) getting one without the bubble date window aka the cyclops which allows it to fly under the radar (ive read people dont recognize it as a rolex without the cyclops), or watches by Tudor (Rolex's younger brother). Tudor really killed with their new releases this year. Look at the Tudor Pelagos (which is the REAL submariner update IMHO and will be priced around 4k IIRC), and if you want something retro inspired then look at the Tudor Black Bay.
If you dont want to invest much time researching watches, then maybe you should just pull the trigger on the B&M. As Newcomer says, if it speaks to you then go for it! Or, to suggest an alternative route, get something cheaper now. Get a Steinhart submariner homage and see if you like it. You will either get your hankering for a sub out of your system or crave the real thing even more. At least you will know. Then keep saving your money and get the watch you want. If you are looking to spend 5k, I will repeat myself and say take your time because there are many good watches at that price point. You need to figure out if you want something sporty (sub, speedy, explorer, zenith el primero etc), or dressy and minimalist (cartier, jlc, GO)
In closing, moonphases rock
The Pelagos is a nice rec! Looks like u can mod the black bay to have a black bezel from the Pelagius if the red bothers.
Glasshute sport evo? 50 fathoms? Or was there a 5k budget? I may have infused that with the watch snob article. But if ur getting only 1. Y not?
awesome watch. great watch, shirt, jacket combo.
rich people who walk in, want the fanciest watch that they like the look of, and do what the SA tells them.
Went to a greek restaurant today with my wife. The owner/host had one of these on his wrist:
I guess business is good?
Made my day to see something like this in the wild
I usually don't like talking about "grail watches" but if I had one, this would be on the short list (but in platinum)
should have hit slipped it off his wrist when shaking his hand.
Are you serious? Maybe I should reconsider my choice of profession. Imagine having the ability to choose between that, the VC Patrimony Traditionelle Worldtime, and the Lange Worldtimer (my favorite I think). Perhaps one day.
I feel like I need to be much more of a jet-setter before the day that I need such a complication though
And you should have tried to snap a pic.
Also, I saw this pic on Hodinkee today, and it really put things in perspective regarding why many prefer vintage Rolex to current Rolex. Having never had the opportunity to see any vintage Rolex in the flesh, comparison pics like this really help one differentiate the two.
I really like the slimmer bezel, slimmer lugs, tritium markers, and the less dramatic crown guards. To be honest, I really can't see anything I really prefer in the new Rolex, aesthetically speaking. The old one would be even better with a big crown, and no crown guards .
yup. though even the previous generation looked fine enough compared to the new. I just can't get behind how wide and squat it feels. If I get a submariner it'll probably be a 14060(M), preferrably sans-COSC. Not too old but not the ginormous thing on the right.
oh, and speaking of moonphases and hodinkee, you guys saw that mb&f frog with a moonphase? http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2012/5...-mbf-introducing-the-hm3-moonmachine-liv.html
i like. but is it a bit odd you sometimes see the moon twice depending on where it is in its phase? also being left handed and wearing my watch on my right these would never work for me, as you can only read the time if it is on your left wrist, it appears.
Vintage Rolex for the most part does look better.
But in the end, I still went with the modern version. I'm probably the minority here, but I actually do like the shiny bezel, and gloss dial. The fat lugs doesn't bother me anymore. With that said, I'll probably add a 1675 GILT PCG GMT someday.
It's a beautiful watch indeed. Cal.240 is one of my favorite movement, love the mini rotor.
14060 after 150.000+ hours of wrist time:
To continue the Sub theme, wearing my 5513 today on a vintage leather strap:
I always liked 14060 but since I have a 5513 already, I settled for an Explorer II that has since been phased out.
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