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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Cylon

    Cylon Senior member

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    I came here to say exactly what has already been said

    I'm one of those people who chose JLC over BPV--buying the JLC Master Moon 39 over the Blancpain Villeret--for a number of reasons (in no particular order):

    1. Case size. My wife did not like the wrist presence on the BPV at all. Said it looked like an "old man watch." I dunno how much a diff 37 to 39mm makes, but there you have it.
    2. As andrewgreg said, JLC represents better value, and overall has a better reputation
    3. the boldness of the stripped down minimalism on the JLC, won out over the busyness of the BPV (tho I too love the moon on the BPV)


    Sidenote: I too dislike the Royal Oak, but the bracelet is beautiful. Dare I say the bracelet is more beautiful than the watch.
     
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  3. Concordia

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    The Rolex website shows a 36mm Air King.
     
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    Blancpain makes a good quality product, but its hard to say what their niche is, they are largely overshadowed by other companies including its sister company Breguet. For years they made watches that were nice like the 2100 but it had no real impact or presence. Breguet's dress watches are known for their amazing guilloche, they invented the tourbillon, and most watch people know the Type XX. Among major companies (I mean non-independents ) Lange and Patek are largely considered to have the finest finishing, and Patek has better resale and collectability than most watches. Until about 50 years ago VC was considered the top swiss brand, they are credited with pioneering the use of uniformity of parts/machinery in watches, and have tremendous history as the oldest continuously opperating watch company. AP created the genre of luxury sports watches with the Royal Oak, and are known for using unusual matterials in their watches such as tantalum, alacrite, forged carbon, and although I don't care for the Offshores they helped bring forward the trend of larger watches. Then there is JLC, which has lower starting price point, great quality, and is considered a tremendous value. Blancpain makes a great product, but they seem to be in the background of the watch world (sort of like GP) and not really a name or brand that competes directly with Lange, PP, AP, VC, or Breguet...even if they make watches that are in in the same price range of the other brands. I've looked at BPs before, and although they make a good product, I find that there are offerings from other brands that are higher up on my "Must haves" list.
    As for whether Breguet is better than AP, it would depend on what you are comparing. As a general statement, I am not sure I'd agree. As for the RO, its a very polarizing watch. People love it, or hate it. Clearly one can see where you stand. However, saying it looks like a Casio...you start to lose some credibility or you need stronger prescription glasses. If you said it resembled a GP Laureato, Rolex Oysterquartz, IWC SL Jumbo Ingenuire...I'd say yes on some level it does, although the RO was the original and the others followed borrowing various styling elements of the RO. Like it or hate it it created the luxury sports watch market which other companies including PP, VC, GP, IWC, and others have jumped into with their own offering that are similar to the RO.
     
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    Don't worry, there's plenty of wrist action in this thread.
     
  7. Dino944

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    If I were buying a Patrimony it would be the Patrimony Traditionnelle manual. I prefer its case and dial to that of the Contemporaine which I find a bit bland. I am also not reall a fan of the cal 1400 used in the small Patrimony Contemporaine...but thats just a personal choice.
     
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    I'm not a fan of the Royal Oak, but it's a beautifully executed watch.

    An anecdote:

    A good friend of mine is a doctor. A man gave him a top of the line Royal Oak (gold and steel) in appreciation for successfully treating his wife when she had "incurable" cancer.

    My doctor friend had no idea that the watch was anything special. Until I told him the value of the watch, he had assumed that it was worth a couple hundred dollars at most and that the gold was merely gold plate.
     
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    I said royal oak looks like casio is just a sarcasm. And yet I don't need stronger prescription glasses. :laugh:

    I hate royal oak mostly because of the look. The overall design doesn't look luxurious enough for me.
     
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    Enjoying a long overdue second honeymoon with my 5513. I've hardly taken it off my wrist lately. Never mind the Patek, the JLC, the Portuguese, the Redsub or the gold Sub. My heart belongs to a study of perfection in bruised steel and creamy dead tritium :satisfied:

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    Very handsome watch. If the Patek, JLC, Red Sub or gold Sub are feeling neglected, I'll gladly lend a wrist so that they get some attention [​IMG]
     
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    cant say i blame you. theres something special about those
     
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    Medtech - can you explain why you personally think the Lange is far superior to the Quintus ? Note that Im not referring to the unitas ebauche here.

    All the elements look the same to me, with the Dorn having hand-engraved serial nos.

    As to the VC, I deliberately wasnt specific as I am open to all of them, but like the auto Patrimony especially.

    Ive researched them all and tried them all, but am interested to hear what other wis think of the finishing. I can decide on the aesthetics. Not enamoured with the Journes myself.

    Any of the independents produce a nice classic watch ?
     
  15. Cylon

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    This is starting to get weird but ill indulge for a moment--how about laurent ferrier?

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    I read a really great comparison of PP, VC and AP somewhere online... I can't find it now (argh). It was a great read, focusing on a lot of the finer details of each maker and what sets one apart from the other. It was on a simple looking website. I wanted to post it here for you to read, but - as stated - I can't find it. Anyone know what I am referring to and can perhaps post the link?
     
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    Ferrier is on my shortlist as is Romain Gauthier. But theyre both rather big watches. Even the Tonda is quite gauche looking.

    How hard is it to get a customised case or dial from an indep?
     
  19. Cylon

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    How much money you got? [​IMG]
     
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    I love Laurent Ferrier, absolutely gorgeous. 'Dem hands...

    But I have read that they are really large, which is a pity, to say the least. Have you looked at Moser?
     
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