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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. dddrees

    dddrees Senior member

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    Thank you sir.
     
  2. jbarwick

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    I would pick the GMT out of those 2 though I see the love for the plain Sub. From what I understand the black was the first move to Cerachrom for the bezels and it took a while to figure out the process for the two-tone which are now in the BLNR and BLNO.

    The only problem with the GMT is when you don't wear it for a weekend and it stops then setting the GMT hand means twisting the minute hand around quite a bit instead of a similar quick set as the hour hand has.
     
  3. Dino944

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    No, its not a Reverso 1931. He said its a steel case, with white dial, and "Numbers instead of sticks" which I took to mean Arabic numerals. So its an ultrathin, but not a 1931. The steel 1931s have stick markers.

    Tough choice. Both are great watches. I like the clean look of no date, fewer hands, and fewer markings on the bezel. However for daily use, a date comes in handy, and most average people travel more than they go diving/snorkeling. So the GMT becomes more practical.

    I've said it before but to me a GMT needs a dual color bezel to be at its most functional and to maintain its own identity. My first Rolex was an all black bezel GMT. I had ordered a GMT, expecting a blue and red, but the black bezel was what appeared. At first I thought it was cool, and made it a shade more dressy and versatile if one were to wear with a blazer or suit. However, I found that if a person noticed my watch, they almost always said, "Nice Sub." After a while it seemed to me that the GMT lacked its own identity when it had an all black bezel. So for me a dual color bezel is a must. I'm a big fan of both watches, so there really isn't a wrong choice...I'd just favor a BLNR over the all black bezel GMT.

    I actually considered a no Date Sub not too long ago, but I already have a previous generation Sub, I don't dive, and I really like the black black combination of the BLNR... so that's what I chose.

    All I do is look to see where the 24 hour hand stopped, then advance the hour hand so the date gets corrected or will be correct when it advances past midnight and stop the hour hand on the hour that matches up with the 24 hour hand. Usually very little to adjust in terms of minute hand that way...not sure if I explained it clearly enough....but its Sunday and I need lunch! Cheers!
     
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  4. gopherblue

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    About an hour late on this:

    "Hello, pot? This is kettle. You're black."
     
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    I know this is off-thread, but I've got a suspicion some of the TWATerati might have an opinion.

    I'm going to need a raincoat (or "Mac" as I'm told they are called here) and I can see only two options: Burberry and Aquascutum ("Heritage" and "Corby").

    I tried both on today and like each one. Feeling indecisive. I'll spare you all the long pros and cons list. Anyone care to render an opinion? Perhaps someone who's given either one the test of time?
     
  6. Kaplan

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    Maybe consider a Mackintosh?
     
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    new diver for the summer..
     
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    Seemed off topic and my reply was a bit long, so I sent it as a PM.
     
  10. Tried and True

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    How about a one off with Burberry Bespoke? :embar:


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    There you go! :slayer: haha. For the record I've got B'bry as well (not bespoke, just off the rack).
     
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    Has anyone else noticed that Hodinkee has become a de facto cheerleader for the auction houses, trying to justify the sky-high valuations of watches far from deserving such prices? It's worse than their breathless, Pollyanna-ish coverage of their favorite Marques.

    Don't even get me started on how they feign "editorial independence," but readilyalmost certainly accept business-class airfare, premium hotels and other payments from the various manufacturers and auction houses. And don't forget that they don't likely pay even close to retail for anything they buy. (That Ferrier comes to mind.)

    I'd have an easier time accepting it if they were honest about it. It really speaks to credibility. Hell, most blogs I read take pains to disclose this sort of thing.

    /rant
     
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  13. Grammaton Cleric

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    Do you know for a fact that Hodinkee gets these freebies, or is this just conjecture? I don't appreciate their incessant cheerleading for every piece that Clymer owns, but I think it's unfair to just throw out various (serious) accusations at them.
     
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    Did you just put on the KOW hat???
     
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    Well, they thanked BMW overtly in their instagram feed for the car while in Switzerland and Italy. And there is no way the site revenue supports that many business-class flights and hotel stays to Geneva, Tokyo, Zurich, Lake Como and the rest. When they fly out to Geneva for a single brand's launch event, doesn't that seem likely to have been a paid placement? And I'm sure that Cleverley charged them all retail for the bespoke shoes Hodinkee breathlessly covered on the site. And I believe Clymer is the proud owner of a Laurent Ferrier that I'm sure was purchased at retail. But you're right, it is just an educated conjecture. Perhaps they ought to address it?

    At least have the moral compass to disclose it, even in passing...for example, how about: "Patek brought us over to Geneva to participate in the exciting launch of their blah, blah, blah."

    Is that so hard?
     
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    Yes, ...it's another hobby of mine [​IMG]. The short version was a vote for Burberry.
     
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    They probably get some kickbacks, but nothing over the top. They have a shop, they have large ads right on the homepage, and they have a ton of traffic coming to the website (quick scan shows 71k facebook followers and 130k IG followers, that's not bad)... it's not like the website makes NO MONEY. I don't think the kickbacks are too outlandish.

    It's not uncommon for a company to pay for your flight/hotel for coverage/working of an event. If Patek is throwing a major event, you don't think they'd be covering the event front and center on their page, anyways? I don't think it's that big of an issue.

    edit: I clicked their "Advertise With Us" link at the bottom of the page and pulled this:

    HODINKEE has seen significant growth over the lifespan of the company, with an average of 1,000,000 unique visitors each month, and over 2,000,000 monthly pageviews.


    I don't know much about online advertising, but that seems like a solid number to generate at least some revenue.
     
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    Going to guess that's from Tokyo?


    You're just full of wisdom Dino. So, ahem, to what does KOW refer?
     
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    I debated long and hard between the BLNR and 114060 (ND Sub) for nearly three months before I decided on the Sub. For me, this would be an everyday watch and the PCLs of the BLNR were too flashy for me. Beyond that, in absence of the cyclops, the symmetry of the 114060 is a sight to behold. To me, it's near perfection and I've regretted selling that watch every single day since I did so.
     
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  20. no frills

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    The King Of Outerwear! Hashtag BOOM!
     
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