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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. velomatt

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    Yep, Up/Down, but that is on the 5-10 year time horizon, probably once grad school loans are paid off. Most likely will be the Nomos Tangente Automatic. Their own movement, good price point. Versatile enough that I could wear it at work everyday.

    The Ranger is the only Tudor that I can really get behind. I wanted to like the Pelagos, but I can't get over the hour hand.

    I love power reserve indicators, hence their heavy inclusion on the list.
     
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    Do you mean the snowflake? That's one of the main aspects of the design.
     
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    But the snowflake is what we call in the UK a Marmite design (Marmite being a yeast extract spread on toast that people either love or hate).
     
  4. velomatt

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    Yes, exactly. It looks brutish and unrefined to me :) There's no accounting for taste.
     
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    No worries, to each their own :cheers:
     
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    What does TWAT think about the wearing of pinky rings or rings in general as fashion? If you enjoy them do you like them on your watch wearing hand or the opposite hand?
     
  7. ShawnBC

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    No love for the Heritage Black Bay in red/burgundy? It is, in my book, a lovely timepiece, and probably one of my two next 'bigger' purchases (read: that doesn't belong in the PMW thread)!

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    Photo credit: user 'Clarky' on www.forums.watchuseek.com

    I have 2 rings. My wedding band on the left ring finger and my 'engagement ring' on the right ring finger. The 'engagement ring' is actually a long story, but in short, it was supposed to be my wedding ring, but I inherited my late grandfather's wedding ring that my wife surprised me with on our wedding day. My grandfather's ring became my wedding ring and the previous one was nicknamed my 'engagement ring'.

    As for your question, I've always liked pinky ring (chevalière-type) but I've always felt that without being from a long lineage of some old-money family or rich blood, or profession-related (military, sport player, engineer, etc.) it might look poseur so I always opted against it. Anyway, had I chosen to wear one, it would always rub/cling against my wedding ring, making it uncomfortable to wear.

    There are some stylish dude whom wear them with great style/without looking gimmicky (read: Karl Edwin Guerre, the guy from HVRMINN, etc.), but they usually have the eclectic style to go with it and are often working in fashion/design by profession.

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    On another note, how does TWAT feel regarding Hodinkee's feature of rich anonymous Japanese citizen's Lange collection?

    http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/watch-collecting-in-japan-a-lange-and-sohne
     
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  8. kimmo

    kimmo Senior member

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    OK, this might be a bit long and thinking out loud, but for tl;dr:

    1) ultimate sports watch 5-10 k€
    2) does a high end dress watch have to have a white dial?

    Long version:

    I actually once already ordered a blue-dialed Milgauss, but Rolex being the a-holes towards North European market as they are, didn't deliver the watch. Happened to a Tudor also, so 2 out of 2. Even the AD's don't know if they get a full delivery to their order until they open the packages. So, been thinking the "sports watch"´category a lot earlier.

    Spec would be steel, steel bracelet, in-house movement, not chrono, design stylish enough to work also with a suit on informal settings. Have already my ultimate diver (JLC DSC) so looking into "clean design" here.

    As I've probably mentioned here before, only Rolexes which interest me are Milgauss and Platona (material plus colours, price point a bit steep, though).

    Omega, nah. Don't see the current price hike strategy working for me, only interesting ones are Aqua Terra's.

    AP Royal Oak is the other strong contender here (apart from blue Milgauss) and if my gardening leave / new job scheme works just right, I'd spend part of my extra bonus to this end and RO would be probably the "grail". However, 15400 wears a bit large, 15300 / 15202 would probably be right (have tried 15300 years ago, so need to find one first to try. Discontinued model so a problem also). Can't really justify the 15202 extra price, though.

    VC Overseas... I don't like the non-chrono models dial with both batons and numbers, so a design issue.

    What else have I really missed here? I have to dig up the $5k threads and read them through..

    For the dress watch, I'll probably postpone that later but JLC MUT Moon 39 in black really speaks to me. Problem is I seem to be ending with black / dark dialled watches already and I don't like the MUT Moon white dial, being slightly bland. So what's the TWAT popular opinion of a higher end dress watch dial colour? Other dress watches I like seem to be from VC and they do the white much better, so there's a thought..
     
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    I like the chronos but they are a tad thick. The Ranger is my favourite as well. Wondering if they will add the inhouse movement to it next year.
     
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    I really like the JLC MUT Moon 39 in black. But if you have several other black dialed watches, then yes, I agree you should consider mixing it up. I really like the VC dress watches, especially the 1955 Historique. It is a true ultrathin, with a gorgeous, JLC-derived movement. Has real horological cachet too. Not sure what your budget is, but if this is in your range, I'd give it a serious look.
     
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    Jeepers, they must really roll out the red carpet and brass band in Glashutte when that dude comes into town.

    But (and I have only glanced at the article) they are all broadly the same. Where's the variety? Where are the Zeitwerks, the Richard Langes? Each to his own, sure, but that seems like a really odd focus of ones attentions.
     
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    I wasn't originally aware of the symbolism when I bought one to commemorate my own personal career achievement. I hope it doesn't get taken the wrong way. I just liked the way it looked. I definitely try to get items that don't obviously appear to be affiliated with any groups.
     
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    A wedding band is fine and I wear it on the same hand as my watch. Even a second ring on the other hand can be fine, as long as its not on one's pinky. Sorry, but I despise pinky rings. I've never seen one that I thought added anything to one's appearance. I've noticed that for the most part when I see people wearing a pinky ring, I usually don't care for their taste in clothing, shoes, or cars either. I see it as detractor from one's appearance, and tacky. One of my in-laws wears a pinky ring and it would be a bit improvement in his taste if he did not. If some one loves how it looks, or its family ring, or if they have a nice story about a pinky ring, that's great, but I would never wear one.

    As for sports watches, are you considering new or pre-owned or both? I'm not sure that one can get a new AP RO or VC Overseas in the 10K Euro range, but maybe there is much deeper discounting in your home country than in the US. I suppose if the 15300 is the one for you, then you will definitely be looking at pre-owned unless you find someone bought one and never wore it. The 15300 has been out of production for more than 3 years so the stock of new ones through ADs & Boutiques is long gone. Still if you can find a RO that you like in terms of design fit, and price then its a great watch. Its one of my favorite watches and is probably the most versatile one I own.

    As for dress watches, I generally find white/silver more appealing. Sometimes dark dials can look a bit flat and boring on a dress watch, unless its something interesting like a stone dial, such as onyx or lapis, Also, white/silver dials lend themselves to showing guilloche much better than dark dials, and that can add some life to a white/silver dial. However, if you don't want a an all white/silver dial, you could always go with a VC Traditionelle with subdial at 6...which has a gray minute track to break things up a bit. Wishing you luck on your journey.
     
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    I was thinking almost the exact same things. (Although in my head it was lederhosen and "oom-pah-pah band.") Seems like a collection with a very narrow focus, even within ALS. Pity.
     
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    I'd say the dress watch is also 5-10k, trying to keep this however reasonable. On the other hand, that purchase would be probably for the next 20-30 years given the use, so I might splash a bit more. Have to find the VC price list, chrono24 talks about 20k+ on those Historiques so slighty over budget. Have to also say I looked hard at it, as the TWAT catalogue day also brought in the VC book. More into Patrimony, though.



    Sorry, forgot to mention: new (nothing beats peeling the stickers off your watch yourself...), price range is with discount. So you could drive a MSRP 15k€ Omega through that. AP 15400 is around 11-12k discounted, so it's a stretch. Chrono24 has one 15300 with stickers for sale in Europe, so I know this probably won't happen as new so I might have to review my policy on those. Or wait for next year's releases and see if the get back into more reasonable sizes.. 15450 was also interesting find in their range, haven't tried a 37mm RO so have to see if those are available here or I have to travel a bit.

    For VC Overseas the non-chrono models are also below and around 10k, chronos are closer 15k, undiscounted. Haven't really tried to ask what the discount on those would be, but the non-chrono would fit the budget and I like their quality, but the design just is a bit wrong.

    Very good point on the guilloche on white dials. Traditionelle / Patrimony are probably the VC bets for dress watch, and I think the simplicity would be the key here. Although I like ALS Saxonia Jahreskalender in platinum, but that would be for the "really over the top" category..

    In general I'm trying to look really forward in my purchases and keep the collection to a few really quality pieces than go and buy something new every two years and then sell them away a bit later. That AP RO would probably be something which still stays fresh and timeless for a long time. Also, it looks good with white dial.
     
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    +1

    I've always felt that a man's "jewelry" should be minimal at all times. A watch and a wedding ring (if one is married, a signet ring [not on the pinky!] if one is not) should be the limit IMHO. I do not like the look of pinky rings, bracelets/beads, necklaces, straps etc. etc. All just looks icky and tasteless to me, but YMMV.

    I once considered a signet ring, but then I got married and thusly wear a wedding ring instead. Anything more would detract from it IMO, and that simply won't do.
     
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    Went to Shreve to ask about sending my panerai in for service and saw this and had to try it.
    I will admit I'm not a watch expert by any means when it comes to complications and movements but it looked and felt so ridiculously amazing on. Small price tag of $62,000
     
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    Price tag is wow and I'm not sure I'm ridiculously impressed from the picture alone - but you say it was fantastic in the metal / on your wrist? How large was the case size?
     
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    ^ Doesn't look appealing to me, but we're all different :)
     
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