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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. appoooh

    appoooh Senior member

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    It is the Weiss - in 35mm. I'm concerned it looks cold compared with the standard and Rose Orion - thoughts?
     
  2. cchen

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    A couple shots from the HK watches and wonders show

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  3. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    That Lange tourbillon!!

    @appoooh , sorry for calling you Moo, mix up: to be honest, I am drawn to the original for that reason - the extra interest of the blued hands really makes it special to me. But that said, this is supposed to be the essence of Bauhaus design, so the more minimalist look is perfectly appropriate. Also, those polished hands will really pick up the colours around them - as in your pic.

    I was curious on the size because I'm seriously thinking about getting the Orion one of these days. The price is really attractive, and my only question was 35mm or 38mm. I have a vintage 35mm Omega (see pic to the left!) that I wear most days as my dress watch, and it's fine, but I'd definitely go up a mm or two rather than down. So I am interested to see how the 35mm Orion wears in the real world with those long lugs. Any chance of some more pics? And how big is your wrist? The 38mm would sound like the perfect size to me, but if the 35mm wears a little bigger, I think the dial is better proportioned to the movement (placement of the subdial).
     
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    I have the rose (well I bought it for my wife, but I wear it quite often anyway) , and it's my favorite dial of the Orions, but the Weiss is right up there with the black dial as well. I'm not really a fan of the blued hands version. I'm also a big fan of the grey dial but, unfortunately, I don't care for the 38mm version; and the 35mm wears plenty big enough for that style of piece IMO.
     
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    Cyclops hate makes me sad.

    Future Rolex kops makes me happy tho.
     
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  6. RFX45

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    I don't hate the cyclops, it's just not my favorite.
     
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    It will be interesting to see if Rolex comes out with a Black/Red SS GMT sometime soon. The GMT started using cerachrom inserts in 2005 and it took until 2013 to release a bicolor version though Rolex has mentioned it was tough getting the split right. The Sub has multiple bezels in SS but it is the more desirable Rolex so it may make sense to have that.

    Seems like Rolex would update other watches first before the GMT though. Just makes sense from a business standpoint.
     
  8. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    It took 8 years but they did release two bi-color cerachrom bezels back to back. I want a coke bezel in SS but I have an odd feeling that it will be in platinum. :( And it seems really tough to do too, the pepsi bezels blue isn't the same as batmans, it is more purple-ish in the sun. Kind of disappointing to be honest.


    People on TRF are expecting a moonphase from Rolex next year but I must have missed a report or news that it is even in Rolexes plans?


    The Sky-Dweller is great, I hope it come sin SS soon, probably take a few years but I wouldn't be mad if they introduce it next year.


    Next year is technically Rolexes 100 year anniversary so I expect something special.


    Personally I am just hoping for a ceramic bezelled Daytona.
     
  9. in stitches

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    Horses for courses I guess, I love em.
     
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  10. Dino944

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    I like the design of the Ingenier, but its movement is a bit uninspiring. When they re-introduced Ingeniers several years ago I believe the time only model used their own in house movements, however its currently using either an ETA or Sellita as a base movement. While they are good strong work horse movements, I'm just not excited about them in a watch at that price point.

    If I had my heart set on a Ingenieur, I might search for pre-owned model from several years ago when I believe it was using an in house movement.

    I don't dislike RD. It is simply I find their products are hit or miss, so its very model dependent for me. However, at its price point there are often other brands, I'd turn my attention to first.
    FM, I'm not a fan of period.

    As for women being drawn to those 2 pieces, most women aren't collectors and probably just see them as gold jewelry. When my dad would wear YG PP 5070 (which is 42mm), he used to get compliments from women about it, but none ever knew what it was. So again I think they just saw it as a large gold piece of jewelry. I've found my Cartiers attract far more interest and favorable comments from women, than any of my other watches (but the other brands I have watches from are generally more popular here).

    Hi JB, Love the BLNR. In case you don't subscribe or haven't seen it at your local book store, the current issue of WatchTime has a BLNR on the cover and a nice review on it.
     
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    But what IWC wanted to do was actually make the case smaller and slimmer. 3227 is 42.5mm x 14.5mm versus 40mm x 10mm. IWC just can't make small in-house movements, their old movement make (now making Habring2s) just made huge movements sadly, even Habring2 watches (jumping second pilot) are huge because of that but they did recently made a slimmer and thinner in-house movements but he isn't with IWC anymore.

    Would have been perfect they can combine the 3227 movement with the case size of the 3239.
     
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    There are several ceramic bezelled Daytonas. [​IMG]
     
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    In SS I meant. lol

    Was considering the 116515 with chocolate dial in leather strap and was just going to order a bracelet later on then I found out that none of the bracelet would fit. :censored:
     
  14. Kaplan

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    TWAT'ers, I'm in need of some help. A (sadly not hypothetical) question:

    Say you (from a country in the EU) have ordered a JLC watch from another country (also in the EU), but get send the wrong one. You return it, but now the shop is dodging e-mails and 10 days after the return, you still haven't received a return transfer. How do you proceed?

    Some info: The shop is an on-line shop but it also has a physical presence (within a Hotel, I believe).

    Payment was made via bank transfer.

    The return package was signed for and in e-mail correspondence it has been stated that a 'wire transfer was planned for the end of the week' - that was last week.

    Additional inquiries as to when the return can be expected go unanswered.

    If anyone is familiar with EU law and can offer some insights, it would be much appreciated. TIA.
     
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    Its too bad, because the Ingenieur was the only current offering that I liked from IWC. However, its movement would be a deal breaker for me.
     
  16. RFX45

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    If your wrist could accommodate the larger ones then those still has in-house movements. The Inge Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month is pretty awesome!



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    Engineered for men! :lol:
     
  17. Wes Bourne

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    You mentioned the shop is an on-line shop.

    Is it a full e-commerce through which you can place online orders, and did you get an e-mail order confirmation etc after your purchase? Or does the shop just show some watches, you e-mail them for a price and they send you wire instructions?

    I've always been skeptical of using bank wires for purchases because I don't know what sort of buyer protection, if any, there is.

    I can only suggest calling them to see what's holding up the refund. Fwiw, bank wires (esp. international ones) can have lengthy processing times afaik.

    Hope this gets all sorted out.
     
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  18. Kaplan

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    I'm asking for a family member, so I don't have all the details. I know there's been a lot of e-mails back and forth - I'm assuming order confirmation, etc, as well, but I'm not sure if the order has been placed via the site or through e-mails. When the payment was made the transfer went through on the same day or maybe the day after, so it shouldn't take this long for the return. Only thing I've been able to suggest to the buyer is to check with their bank what kind of steps (if any) can be taken. In the meantime I thought I'd ask here and see af anyone either had any first or second hand experience with something like this, or maybe some legal advice.
     
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  19. mimo

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    I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think there are any relevant consumer protection laws that are common to all EU countries. The relevant jurisdiction will be the vendor's country, if any misrepresentation or fraud needs to be reported.

    I'm curious as to why they would be making a bank transfer, doesn't everyone use cards these days even if just through PayPal etc? Regardless of how the vendor is supposed to return the money, in some countries, certainly the UK, if the payment was drawn on a credit card, then the card issuer is legally the vendor.

    Anyway, best of luck.
     
  20. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Bank Wire Transfer allows more discount as there are no fees for the vendor.

    I know plenty of online stores that would let you pay via bank wire transfer and they pass on the credit card fee savings to the buyer.
     
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