The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Senior member

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    Thanks guys! Clean/fresh dial + cool old school Heuer logo + that bit of blue really did it for me. But fwiw, I was told that the blue is more subtle irl compared to the pics.

    Q : since it was purchased by the original owner 13 years ago, should I get it serviced now/soon or hold off for a while? Again, it's in barely worn condition.
     


  2. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Senior member

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    Fiddler, that other watch I was considering also has that squared-off hour hand. I think it looks great.

    Hayward, that's some sweet sweep action.
     


  3. no frills

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    Belated congrats on the Heuer and very awesome story. Thanks for sharing!

    RE: Servicing. Most of my purchases have been of the pre-owned variety, and some of my oldest pieces are anywhere from 14 to 23 years old. They've never been serviced and they run fine. IMHO unless:

    1. You suspect something might be up (in which case you should have brought this up with the seller);

    2. You notice the piece isn't performing up to snuff (which, again, is cause for conversation with the seller);

    3. You get some deal from the seller that will cover servicing costs this time around...

    Well, I'd wait for a few years. Factor in the "cost" of having to wait for who knows how many weeks or months while that lovely piece is in the shop and... alright, I'll come right out and say it: I'm not very good with the whole patience thing, especially for a piece I've just recently had the pleasure and blessing of acquiring! [​IMG] I want that beauty on my wrist right away!
     
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  4. Wes Bourne

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    Thanks for the advice frills. I actually have no reason to suspect anything is wrong with the watch. The seller awoke the watch from its state of hibernation and kept it wound for about a week and says it runs fine. He also subscribes to the 'if it runs fine, then wait' mentality re servicing.

    And I agree with you as far as MOAR NAOW is concerned, so sending the watch away is certainly something I'd put off if I can. But is there a point where a watch is old enough that you should get it checked, for the sake of prevention, even if nothing seems wrong with it?
     
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    Who are the regular Daytona posters here? I read the 3 part Hodinkee series on the Daytona and have a new appreciation for the watch. I didn't realize the SS still has a wait list or over MSRP most of the time.

    I did get asked from my fiancé if I want the GMT in the house or leave it at her parents since we shipped it there to save tax cost. Since I didn't think anything about it and said leave it in her parents safe, she brought up that if it was in our house she would more likely slip and give it to me early. Here's to hoping she brings it home when she visits he parents in two weeks. [​IMG]
     


  6. dddrees

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    Untrue, the SS Daytona is no longer that difficult to get anymore.
     


  7. Dino944

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    You sort of have to decide what you want to do, as its your watch. I have some friends like Frills, who say if it's not broke, don't fix it. I have other friends who religiously service their watches every 5 years or so. I think it depends on the watch. If its something that's water resistant to 100m, then I think you are probably fine with going 7-10 years. If its a dress watch or something water resistant to say only 30 meters, but its worn every day maybe 5 years, if worn occasionally maybe 7 tops. There are varying thoughts on the matter, lubricants can congeal over time, or possibly evaporate if a watch has pushers but minimal water resistance (say a chronograph that is only WR to 30m). Some say watches worn infrequently the oils/lubricant's congeal, others say wearing something everyday the oils get dirty or wear away just from constantly protecting metal surfaces that have contact with other metal surfaces (such as gears). While oil reduces friction, there still is friction and possibly some minute metal from friction gets into the oils. I think wearers tend to have different comfort levels and beliefs as to how their wearing habits affect the watch and its need for service. I would simply state any watch that will be submerged in water (swimming pool or ocean), should be pressure tested every 18 months -2 years to make sure the gaskets are in tact and keeping it water tight.
    As DDDrees said, they are no longer difficult to get in the US. No wait lists. My father bought one with a 5% discount in 2009 (the dealer was reluctant, but my dad was always one of those guys who could sell tampons to the Vienna Boys Choir or Ice to Eskimos). They stopped being difficult to get in the US around 2008/2009. I have heard from friends in other countries they are still tougher to get in some places, but the waiting lists are much shorter. Wait lists or not, they are still great watches and one of the best chronographs one can buy, even when compared to chronographs from some other makers that largely believed to builders of finer watches.

    I know most of us aren't too patient about waiting to wear our newest watches...however, there is something really nice about opening a watch box and having a brand new watch to wear on the wedding day. I waited about 6 months before I got to wear my Explorer 2 on the "Big day." Sure I would have loved to wear it earlier, and yes if I wore it with a few tiny wear marks only I would know I had been wearing it prior to the wedding. However, I think I have a bit more attachment to it because its first wear was our wedding date. Just food for thought. Whatever you do its a great watch that you will enjoy.
     


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    I got my 116520 in January of this year without waiting. It wasn't on display, but it was there for the asking. It was actually a bit of an impulse buy, but I'm very satisfied with it.
     


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    Yep, I have yet to see a new one on display yet. There are still some hold over traditions, however they are a lot easier to get, no more waiting in line, and you won't have to pay over retail to get them any more. Besides they are pretty salty at the regular retail price anyway.
     
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    There also are many, many minty full-set 116520s on offer at the usual places for right around $10K. Personally I'd go that way unless I was absolutely sure I was going to hang onto the watch long term. Grey/preowned values are pretty stable so if you do decide to sell it on you'll only be eating a few hundred.

    PS: Realized I actually don't know what the US RRP is on the Daytona? UK was 7,950 pounds ($12,435) including VAT the last time I was there.
     


  11. Dino944

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    Yes, they usually keep them in the safe rather than in the display case. I think its an attempt to make it look like they are very difficult to get (for those that don't know there is no longer a wait), and that it just arrived and they haven't even had time to put it out.

    Years ago when I first started looking at Daytonas...they were $3,800. Demand was so insane, that wait lists at bigger dealers were several years long. When you did find a SS Daytona in the window or display case of a shop it was often $2,500 over list or to as much as twice the MSRP. I did see a few in display cases...all for around $7,500 (I know seems like a bargain now). I bought my first 2 SS Daytonas for $4,350 and then $5,100...after a few price increases in 1996. However, these watches were really very underpriced (AP and VC were selling SS chronos for $12,000, Breguet and Blancpain were selling for around $7,500...and those watches all depreciated. The SS Daytonas could be worn for a day or 5 years and then sold for more than you paid. Tons of them just sold to people that got on as many lists as possible and who flipped them immediately after purchase.

    The price really hit demand hard. When the current 116520 first hit US shores it was $6,000. There was still a steady demand for Daytonas even when they hit $9,000...but once flippers saw they couldn't make a profit flipping them quickly for a few grand, they stopped buying and demand started to catch up (a friend in the jewlery business said at about $10K and $20K the number of would be watch buyers drops off drastically). That plus a bad economy starting in 2008/2009 when people on wait lists would pass when an AD called them because they lost their jobs, or were afraid of losing their jobs and wondering how they would make mortgage and car payments.

    Its still a great watch even if one can't buy a new one and sell it the next day to make a few thousand on the side. I love mine.
    US MSRP for a SS Daytona is $12,000.
     


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  13. rnguy001

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    If you guys are looking for a SS Daytona, I've seen them regularly in the displays in the NOVA ADs.

    Good luck, hope you get your watch early! (and post lots of pics please)


     
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    Great photo and watch!
     


  15. RogerP

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    Greetings TWAT brothers. Under the heading of first world problems....

    I'm heading to a lakeside resort with my daughter next week, and want to take one watch. There are several pools, a water slide and, well, a lake. So there will be splashing involved. The easiest one-watch solution would be a dive watch. But I haven't bought the Sub C or Pelagos yet, so the next best thing in my non-beater lineup is the Speedy 9300.

    Problem is, it's on a croc strap. Now, the obvious solution is to just put it back on the bracelet, which has served in a water-role before:

    [​IMG]


    Problem is, ever since rnguy convinced me to wear it on a strap, I have really liked the look and just don't want to go back to the bracelet.

    Solution - rubber strap from www.thewatchboys.com :

    [​IMG]

    The Kevlar texture gives it a bit more visual interest than the average flat rubber piece, as does the bright white stitching. It is very supple right out of the box (as one would expect of rubber) - no break-in time required at all. And the double-deployant is a nice sporty compliment to the strap and the watch itself.

    [​IMG]

    I'll report back on how it all went. Cheers.
     


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