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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. justinkapur

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    Your average thee-register chronograph is designed to time events up to 12 hours in length - you're not going to harm it by letting it run for extended periods of time. I've certainly never had a chronograph suffer any damage whatsoever from being left running during the course of he day - and I like to see the sweep hand sweep, and the totalizers do their thing.

    And if it is an automatic chronograph, you won't appreciably reduce the power reserve. I think the analogy of leaving your car engine running is more apt in the context of those who use watch winders - keeping their watches running constantly even when not in use.
     


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    I am not the most knowledgeable about this... but I thought it was largely dependent on whether it was a column wheel chronograph with a vertical clutch? I thought that having a vertical clutch substantially mitigated the wear-and-tear from running it? At the end of the day, I guess running it will always cause more wear and tear than not running it.
     


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    Stunning watch... Very stylish - the green works well against the black dial... Thanks for sharing :)
     


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    A friend of mine was given quite a nice Tag Heuer chronograph as a graduation present some years back and he left the chrono function running all the time because, I later discovered, he'd never bothered to find out how to actually operate the watch!

    We were having lunch after he'd been wearing the watch for eight months or so and I noticed that the sweep seconds hand was going around the dial, so I asked him if he was timing something. He looked blank and I explained that it was part of the stopwatch function and that he could stop it by pressing the upper button and then reset the position by pressing the lower button. He said that he'd never realised and that he must have pressed the "start" button when he was looking at the watch after it had been given to him and that he'd never stopped it!

    So, I suppose that it could cause greater wear-and-tear on the watch, but it didn't seem to hurt my friend's watch to have his chrono function running continuously for about eight months. That was about fifteen years ago and his watch is still running without any problems.
     


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    You may be right - though I would have thought that both the column wheel and the vertical clutch come into play during the start / stop / reset cycle - not when the chrono is simply running.

    Clearly running the chrono always will cause more wear than not running it at all - just as running the watch itself will cause more wear than not running it at all. But both the watch and the chrono are designed to run - they are not grinding themselves away prematurely by being used in the very way they were designed to be used. Just like any mechanical piece, they will require periodic service to ensure proper function and long life. Refraining from using the chrono - or deciding to use it sparingly - won't change that reality.
     


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    Thanks. I'd like to eventually move up to an Omega or Rolex, but this will do for now...
     


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    Yes, a three register chronograph is desinged to time event that are up to 12 hours in duration. However in reality, that does not necessarily mean its was intended to run 24/7 365 days per year.

    Of course its not going to blow up or wear the gears down to nothing. However, it will over time experience more wear & tear than one that has used the chrono function as needed, or as wanted rather than 24/7. A watch with average use probably will simply get cleaned and lubricated. A watch with the chrono running 24/7 may need some parts replaced. Not the biggest deal in the world, but its more than cleaning & lubrication and adds to the bill. Remember that although the gears are not gnashing, no matter how well engineered and lubricated there is some small amount of friction. It just can't be helped.

    I think you may be taking the car analogy a bit literally. His point was unnecessary wear & tear. However, since you brought it up, your explanation of car analogy being like a watch on a winder isn't really acurate or the same. Cars are not intended to idle for 12 hours (its actually bad for cars. You'd see low mileage cars sustaining more significant wear on pistons, rings and valves, carbon deposits gumming up valves, premature replacing of catalytic converters and exhaust systems). While a watch is intended to tell time all day, everyday for several years.

    It's one thing to replace rings, valves, exhaust if you've actually driven 250,000 miles... But it would seem like a waste of money & effort to do that at 20,000 miles from letting a car idle over night, every night for 5 years.

    I've followed the watchmaker's advice and my chronographs have never had any problems or required any parts be replaced (just cleaned and lubricated). However, the OP can certainly do whatever he likes its his watch.
     
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    Panerai looks fantastic. Here's my modest contribution.[​IMG]
     


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    Love the analogy! :D
     


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    also, i have never heard of leaving a chrono running for no reason. fascinating.
     


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    Quote:I don't recall anyone suggesting the chronograph should run 24/7/365 - I understood the question to embrace leaving the chronograph running while the watch is worn. I don't advocate leaving any watch running 24/7/365 - hence my disinterest in winders. Using a chronograph as it was designed to be used - i.e. - letting it run for up to 12 hours at a time - is not doing it any harm. Heck, letting it run longer is perfectly fine - it's not as if evil things suddenly start to happen in hour 12 or 13. I think the car analogy is not particularly apt for many reasons, but I wasn't the one who raised it. There are a gret many reasosn why you wouldn't leave your car running all the time that have no bearing upon the chronograph question. Surely you can think of a few. I hesitate to play the "my watchmaker said" game, but I have received different advice.
     


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    Crap. I just turned off my chrono, and stopped all my winders after reading these last few posts.. Wait no I turned them on again.. wait..:D

    In all seriousness, I've often wondered the same thing about winders/chronographs.

    I do love to watch that center hand go around on the Speedy though. It's a sickness.

    Basic logic would make me think that running a chronograph would entail requiring more 'work' as defined by physics, and therefore more 'energy' from the movement, which means in my simplistic understanding, that it would have to come from the power reserve. Whether that results in a perceivable drop in that power reserve is the true question. From what I read on other 'forums', it does not.

    great points RogerP and Dino in the end, I think both of you are correct.




     


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    Hi Roger, the question the OP posted was, "People with chronos, such as Daytonas, do you leave the chrono running at all times?" To me, that means leaving it on all the time (particularly if its a daily wearer). It doesn't say, just when the person wears it.

    People should not be afraid to use the chronograph function. I never said any harm comes to a watch wearing it with the chronograph engaged as it was designed to be used, be it for 12 hours or 14 hours. Any additional wear and tear would probably take a few years of continuous use with chrono engaged before it would be noticeable. I was merely sharing my experience and what a watch maker said to me about it. In the end we are all adults and can choose to do what we want with our watches. I don't leave my chronograph running all the time, but if other owners take joy in doing so that's great.
     


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    I have read an article where someone mentioned running the chrono on at all times, but in that instance the chrono was used to track a second time zone. Sort of like a make shift chrono GMT...
     


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