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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    I am no Rolex expert, but for me the new Sub is a wholesale improvement in terms of overall aesthetics, particularly the slightly beefier overall look and the addition of the ceramic bezel. It has moved from a watch that I have always respected but never particularly wanted to own, to one that sits very near the top of the likely next purchase list.

    Oh, and even if I even if I had the coin to drop on an all-gold version as pictured above, I wouldn't do it. Ever. Nothing screams "I have more dollars than sense!" (among other things) than a showy gold dive watch.
     


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    wurger Senior member

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    My Longines Boutique called right before COB today to say my special order as arrived, what a pleasant surprise of only one day wait!

    Longines Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases comes in 2 sizes, 41 mm and 44 mm, having a smaller wrist, I picked the 41 mm, and luckily the adjusted bracelet fits my wrist very well, since there is no half links. What really struck me is that how thick is the watch case.... 16 mm, is that common with complication watches? I told myself that I will get used it. As approved by SF members on this thread, I got the white barleycorn dial with contrasting blue hands, it just looks lovely.

    Longines Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases L2.738.4.71.6

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    When the Retrogrades were released a couple of years again, they didn't really do it for me back then; however, since joining this wonderful thread with wonder contributors, yes, you guys, got me interested in watches again. When I was buying a watch for my missus last week, the store manager gave me a Watchtime special on Longines for been a good customer over the years and also the fact everyone knows me in the store. I read about the new Saint-Imier Retrograde Moon Phases, which got me thinking, by adding the moon phases and day/night indicators, and keeping the perfect balance of the dial, I might actually want this. However, it's not perfect, I didn't like arabic numbers as markers and the fat hands, and so so on the lug design of Saint-Imier range.

    So after I got home, had a look online and found the Master Collection Retrograde Moon Phases, roman dial with dauphine hands and smooth lug design, and I am sold!

    This is a beautiful moon phase complication watch with four retrograde hands on the dial. There are: retrograde day indicator and day/night indicator at 12 o’clock, moon phase indicator at 6 o'clock, 24-hour GMT 2nd time zone indicator at the left side of the dial and retrograde date indicator at the right side of the dial. It covers all that I would want on a watch, probably because there is no more room for anything else. With all these complications, does this watch qualifies to be a grand complication?

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    Its movement L707.2 is exclusively created by ETA for Longines, based on the Valjoux 7750. There are 2 pushers on each side of the watch and the crown, each has its own function, making changes on the display very easy.

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    Two things I didn't know until I got the watch, the pushers on the side need a stylus to push, I actually thought they were buttons that gets released for pushing when I move the crown into position 2 or 3, but any ball point pen will do the job, and ink doesn't go on the metal casing, I guess this stops me from fiddling with the different functions when I am on the train... There are the external pusher versions, no moon phase version though, and they are $2000 more.... don't know why is there such a price difference.

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    The 2nd thing is when pulling out the crown, all the retrograde hands reset to zero, luckily it is just a position when the crown is pulled, everything goes back to normal after the crown is pushed back.

    I always liked the elegance of a push button butterfly clasp on the bracelet, this one is no different, and the overall polish for the casing and bracelet is great.

    Seeing so many movements on the dial will bring great enjoyment and fun to its wearer while appreciating mechanical masterpiece hidden inside the watch, which is visible from the sapphire crystal display back. For its price tag rrp 4625 AUD (actual price I got it for is in the low 3000s), Longines really did an excellent job of creating a classic looking watch with multiple complications and good finishing.
     
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    Congrats Wurger and Stitchy!
     


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    Keith T TWAT Master.

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    Yes!




    Wurger: congrats! That one is far more complicated than anything I own.

    I really do like the patterned dial....thanks for posting the pics.
     


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    rnguy001 Senior member

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    Get it Stitch! Congrats again man. Wear it in the best of health!


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    Awesome pickup, looks great on you

     


  6. in stitches

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    thanks, guys! the watch is in my briefcase!!! its a little more worn than i recalled. superb condition, but some light wear marks. not sure if i will leave it as is, or have the high polish areas touched up. ill get pics later.
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    thanks for the replies so far on the sub question. nice to see your opinions.

    roger - while i generally tend to shy away from all gold watches with bracelets, i have come to quite like it on the sub and the GMT. just seems to work. i know nothing would appear to be about stature more than an all gold rolex, but i dont care what people think, i think those models are hot.

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    WUUUUUUUUUUUURGER!!!!!!!! the new watch looks splendid, homeslice. i love retrogrades. love. thanks for the review and the pics. wear it in good health. :cheers:
     
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    wurger - congrats on that beautiful Longines my man! stitchy - we like what we like and it would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
     


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    Hi,

    In addition to the recommendations that have been made earlier for my case, I have seen the Cartier Tank Solo XL (automatic movement).
    I really like the looks of it, and it is much cheaper than say a Reverso for example even though I know the insides are probably not in the same category.
    Any thoughts on this model? It seems to have a pretty interesting history at least

    Thank you
     


  9. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    aint that the truth! :fistbump:
     
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  10. Dino944

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    Never disappointed my friend. You have to feel the love when you try a watch on, in order to pull the trigger. Very cool watch, but if it doesn't do it for you, I get it. Wishing you luck whatever you decide!
    Glad to help!
    I have mixed feelings about the new/current Sub in all gold. I am not a fan of the larger lugs. Some how they seem less over the top on the steel version, but I feel it adds a certain amount of additional bling when its in all gold (although, I do like that they are brushed rather polished as on GMTs). I like the larger luminous markings, and the ceramic bezel (when its a black on gold Sub). I despise the all gold and steel with gold Sub when its a blue dial and blue ceramic bezel....the blue is too smurfy and I find very unattractive. I think the only colored ceramic bezel I've seen so far that I like is the black & blue of the new GMT2. The only Subs the bezels and dials were a usually a much darker and richer blue that I found far more attractive when paired with gold.

    The glide lock is a welcome improvement. As for solid links, all gold Submariners have had solid gold links in their bracelets for more than 2 decades, so that isn't new to the current generation of gold Subs.

    I think there are some nice improvements with the current Sub vs vintage, but my preference as to overall appearance of the gold Subs would be in favor of previous or vintage Subs.

    As for Stitchy's blog, you have a product to market and sell, so what you write for customers should be different than what our overall feelings may be about a current gold Sub. We still Luv ya man![​IMG]
    Fantastic! Congrats!!! Looking forward to seeing some wrist shots soon!
     
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    I haven't seen it mentioned here, but as I have been letting my desire for a JLC Reverso stew while I figure out which one and when I can fit it in my budget, I happened across their iPhone/iPad app. It's with checking out. A number of watches are interactive and you can set a Memovox alarm and have it ring, flip the Reverso over, etc. as well as have various videos and other miscellaneae..

    Search for Jaeger on the iOS App Store..

    In the mean time, back to the drawing board.. Finally was able to find a Grand Taille in person and as nice as it is, it's just too small for me. The 976 was a nice size but the window on back seems pretty lackluster. Was leaning more to the day/night duetto...
     


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    Well, guess what I tried on a few minutes ago:

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    Wasn't as mint / LNIB as the other pics from the internet were (note the bottom left hand side lug and how it's polished a bit), but it is one sexy piece. Holding off for now, though (testing my willpower?!?)...
     


  13. Dino944

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    Really a super handsome watch!!! The lug would bother me, but condition and what satisfies is a balancing act on older watches. Finding LNIB becomes really tough once you are talking roughly 40+ year old watches. Most people didn't buy watches back then as any type of investment. They were worn and often saw a lot of use or at times abuse. Wishing you lots of luck (or will power) whatever you need most to make the right choice for yourself.
     


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    rnguy001 Senior member

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    Wow, that is quite cool
     


  15. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    dino - thanks for the reply, i was hoping you would chime in. and glad there was no love lost. and thanks for the congrats on my addition, hope to get some wrist shots sooner than later.

    Coldcava - thanks for the tip, will download that app. i am huge JLC fanboi.

    frilly mcwilly - that sub looks nice. maybe just the pic, or the angle, or the way you are trying it on, but does it feel/look big on your wrist? what mm size is it?
     


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