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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Dino944

    Dino944 Senior member

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    I agree they will sell them in WG. Not in the numbers they would in steel, but they knew that when they made the decision to make it in WG.

    BTW, very nice Pepsi.
     
  2. dddrees

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    Thank you sir.
     
  3. academe

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    I have a relatively modest collection. I have always loved watches, but prior to the last 4 years or so, watches have not been a priority as I have concentrated on putting together a bespoke wardrobe. I only have two upper tier watches; an AP RO Dualtime and a JLC Grande Reverso Duo. I also have several watches from middle tier makers (many from my time as an undergraduate and later as a PhD student), including an Omega Planet Ocean, a Baume et Mercier (wedding gift), an Oris, a couple of Revue Thommens and a couple of analog Venturas (designed by industrial designer Hannes Wittstein).

    My aim is to build a small but really solid collection of upper tier watches; I'd like to have one each of all the main complications; a dress watch or ultra thin (my next acquisition; probably an AL&S of some description), a moon phase calendar and a chronograph. For a moon phase calendar, I'll probably end up with JLC Master Calendar. I love the classic dial layout. If I had the funds, probably something like the new Lange 1 Moonphase (breathtaking!). Less certain about a chronograph; if I had the means, probably the AP Jules Audemars Chronograph. If not, then something quirky like the GO Senator Sixties Square Chronograph (despite its rotor!), or classic like a JLC Master Chronograph. Chronographs pose something of a dilemma for me; I really don't want a sports chronograph (e.g. Daytona) as I find them too ubiquitous and yet I don't love them enough as a complication to really shell out for something like the AP I mentioned or an AL&S Datograph. I also love VCs and would love to own one, whether a Patrimony Contemporaine, Patrimony Traditionelle or (again if fortuitously I receive a windfall) something like the Historique Toledo 1951 or American 1921.
     
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    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    Always love that pic, ddd.
     
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    Too kind, thank you sir.
     
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    La Grande Bellezza!!!
     
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    Much talk recently of simple dress watches. As it happens, I was innocently visiting the bank at lunch time when I accidentally fell into a watch shop. And this snuck, all too briefly, onto my wrist:

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    Piaget's not really a maker to which I've given a great deal of thought, but I must say the clean simplicity of this Altiplano Ultra Thin, leapt out at me. It's a similar size and shape to the JLC Grande Ultra Thin (40mm), but I think a touch thinner, and this is in white gold. It's also automatic:

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    Nice little rotor there, although I guess being automatic makes it more one for the pragmatists than the purists! Being gold, it costs half a Pimpepsi* at list price (*the new unit of denomination for the price of white gold watches - half of a Pimpepsi is roughly $20k). But in pure design terms, the hands and the offset small seconds make it a lot more interesting than the GUT to look at. It's a big old dinner plate of course, but if that's your thing, it sits nicely on the wrist (mine is about 7"-7.25" for comparison). Anyway, I was quite charmed. There are a lot of options in life if you have 20k burning a hole, but this strikes me as not an unreasonable one. And if you want people to notice it's gold, there's a rose one too. Just saying.

    Incidentally, taking pics with my new phone is a nuisance: I finally got one with a decent camera, as I'm now working for a company that represents Nokia, and the Lumia cameras are great. Unfortunately, being a cheapskate I begged a "trial" rather than choosing and buying one. And someone there was funnier than me and gave me a bright red one. Which is fine. Except when photographing shiny things close up. Here's an alternative subdial and hand option on that VC Overseas I liked:

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    The Vacheron Overseas Chronograph Double Red Special Edition.
     
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    did Breitling even make a showing at Baselworld 2014? [​IMG] haven't seen anything worth noting from them since the updated Transocean.
     
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    Awesome pics dddrees and mimo!
     
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    I've probably said it at least a dozen times, but Piaget is a very under appreciated brand. I am a big JLC fan, and hope to add a Reverso to my collection at some point. However, IMHO the finish and workmanship in Piaget's products exceed those of JLC. I would definitely take an Altiplano over a JLC Master Grand Ultra Thin, based both on finish and design. While I generally favor non-round dress watches (I've yet to purchase a round one), the Altiplano could be the watch to change that Not sure if I would choose the Altiplano automatic or the manual wind, both are beautiful.
     
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    for a slim dress watch i would usually say to go for a manual, but for me, micro rotors are the best of both worlds. i have always loved them.
     
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    I think this is the only Rolex I really like and I would consider investing to get one of them. Very nice combo, Cleav! [​IMG]
     
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    Those pics of Altiplanos is killing me. :) Lovely, though I think I prefer the slightly smaller diameter versions, rather than the >40mm versions.
     
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    IIRC, the manual wind version with small seconds is actually a little thicker than the automatic with micro rotor. Yup...just checked case of the automatic is 5.25 case (thinnest automatic with small seconds 2.35 mm) of the manual is 6.6mm (its movement is 2.5mm thick). For me the issue would be the automatic without the date is 43mm, which is too large and I don't like the 40mm automatic with small seconds because it has a date window. The date window ruins the design for me.
    Agreed. For me the manual 40mm with small seconds and the 38mm manual wind time only are the best choices in terms of fit, proportions, and design. I find the 43mm automatic which is only 5.25 thick starts to resemble a pancake on a strap because its diameter is so large relative to its thickness (or perhaps I should say thinness).
     
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    Piaget are under-rated. Speaking of which, any thoughts on the new Piaget Polo?

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    My Mum has a Polo from the 1990s that I have always admired and which has lovely case work; gold with diamonds. Really more jewellery than watch in some ways, but the high levels of craftsmanship and finishing are clear.
     
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    i too prefer no date on the dressiest of dress models.
     
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    ^^^

    Since we're talking about them, the 38mm Altiplano:

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    And the 40mm Altiplano:

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    I like the off-centre small seconds on the 40mm. The only thing I don't like about either of the watches is the large "Piaget" letters. The font is elegant, but would have preferred the words in a slightly smaller font size.
     
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    The Polo has changed a few times. I really, like the original Polo with integrated bracelet produced from late 1970s through the 1980s. They were very innovative, well made, and designed almost like artwork/architechture in terms of creating a watch that was almost as much if not more bracelet than watch. Most people today, do not appreciate those pieces as they were quartz watches, but still they were exceptional pieces of the highest quality. At the height it its fame, it was considered the ultimate luxury sports watch well before the days when the Nautilus and RO were considered the tops of that category, and they were actually relatively unloved by the masses. I would love to see them make a more modern version simply by increasing the size and putting an ultra thin manual or automatic movement in them.

    The current model, borrows certain styling cues but IMHO, its not as innovative or versatile as the original. The current model I find to be a rather less elegant, somewhat odd mix of dress and sports watch. Its size and clunky shape make it less dressy than say a PP Nautilus and AP RO, yet its not a sports watch in the sense of Submariner, or Omega PO. While the current model is well made, IMHO it falls far short of being a current competior to a Nautilus or RO, which I find sad as its ancestor was once at the top of class of watches.

    So for me at this point, Piaget is a brand I would look to for a dress watch rather than a luxury sports watch. If you are still in a quest for a 2 or 3 handed top tier dress watch, I would suggest you take a very close look at the Altiplanos particularly if you are considering a VC Patrimony of any type.

    Your mother's watch is exceptionally well made. Beyond making everything in house, including the movements (quartz and mechanical), they are extremely well known for their expertise in setting stones, and making jeweled versions of watches. Many years ago they were famous for making ladies cuff bracelet watches with all sorts of semi precious and precious stones. While some are dated, I think many look quite cool and they do well at auctions when they occasionally come up for sale. Piaget really goes out of their way to make a fantastic product, and its the type of watch that can be passed down from generation to generation. Your mother made a great choice by purchasing a Piaget.
     
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    Each of those are fantastic watches. I've tried both on and like each of them. The time only is a bit more stoic, while the 40 mm with small seconds is a bit whimsical with the interesting placement of the subdial offset around 10/11 o'clock, and the sort of guilloche type treatment around the small seconds where there is a change in direction of the dial finish that remind me of a jacquard on a tie. Both are great watches and I'd gladly welcome either into my collection. I like the font and size used so its not an issue for me.
     
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    i much prefer the time only of the two.
     
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