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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Michigan Planner

    Michigan Planner Senior member

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    I was looking forward to having my new (to me) Seiko Tuna delivered yesterday and wearing it today but no USPS in my neighborhood yesterday thanks to our class 3 killstorm.

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  2. HRoi

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    she's purty :inlove:

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    I hear this over and over on a lot of the forums, and it seems that is the consensus among long-time AP and RO enthusiasts. However, after going through the same analysis, I came to the exact opposite conclusion. When I was able to check out the 15300 and the Dual Time, those aren't watches I would be interested in at any price--just too dainty for my tastes and the proportions seemed a little compressed (blasphemy I know!). It's probably because the 41mm models are what actually got me interested in the RO and I had spent so many hours looking at pictures of them. I must be APs target mkt for the rollout of the 41mm RO line. LOL
     
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  4. mimo

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    She's a Grande Lange 1?

    Sweet! Congratulations, HRoi, and a very happy new year indeed!
     
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  5. TC (Houston)

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    My goodness, outstanding!!! Congratulations!
     
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  6. HRoi

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    yes sir, and thank you. it is a happy new year for me and between this and the JLC i think i am done for awhile. :satisfied:

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  7. Dino944

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    With great watches...newness often is irrelevant. I often find myself taking a good long look at many of the watches during the day, and its got nothing to do with needing to know the time.

    Looks great Keith! Nice to see some Cariter love here.

    It has sort of a domed or rounded shape IIRC. Although its far from my favorite offering from them. I've tried on the mens and I'd rather have DJ. Even Mrs. Dino isn't a fan of the BB.

    +1
    ...although Mrs. Dino likes watches...she isn't a fan of the BB.

    Seiko is a good solid brand and a good way to get into watches.

    +1 Spot on Nuke. I love nice shoes and clothing, but they have taken a back seat over the years to watches, for many of the same reasons you have mentioned. Beyond that, if you tire of a watch or decide its not your taste you can trade it and if purchased smartly they retain good value (and in rare cases they appreciate)...that is never happening with the nicest suit or shoes.

    I love wearing nice clothing, but even at nice events sometimes I worry about not having my clothes damaged. I went to a wedding where they served some sort of soup/biscque...well some F@cking $hithead waiter spilled a large blob of soup on the back of a nice Rubinacci suit jacket...and never said a word. At least if the guy told me I might have been able to get it out before it set into the fabric. Neither I nor my wife noticed it until we got home from our trip and it had dried into the fabric. When I saw the color of the stain I knew instantly what it was.

    So I love nice clothing and shoes...but watches for me are much more enjoyable, more durable, and often look as fantastic now as they did 20 years ago or more.

    Yes, insane weather here in the Northeast. We had about a foot of snow Friday and temps of about -1F. Then yesterday it was 55F, with downpours, and then overnight dropped down again to 12F...so lots of ice. Lots of flights have been cancelled in the last few days. Hoping your new toy arrives soon...looking forward to pix!

    Very nice! Congrats and wear it in good health. Really nice gift from your little sis. I'm sure you will get many years of enjoyment from it.
     
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    holy balls. MOAR PICS!!!

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    regarding the gold RO, i remember reading in watch time a while back that the 18K RO is super scratch-able and it really shows on the brushed finish areas. its a very delicate surface.
     
  9. robw

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    Awesome watch hroi, enjoy.
     
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    Damn that's beautiful! Congrats! [​IMG]
     
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    Absolutely awesome Hroi. Just a gorgeous watch, I hope that you wear it in the very best of health! I would love to see more pics when you get the chance, as well as hear how you reached your decision. Is it new or used? And where did you get it from! Sorry for the 20 questions, I would just like to hear more about the buying experience.
     
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    HRoi, congrats, that's a beautiful Lange....and yes, we'd all love to see more pics.




    Its been harsh all over the US, but for you guys up north, where the *bitter* cold and the snow have been especially bad lately....just think warm thoughts, okay?

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    Kaplan, I still have the original strap in unworn condition, and I honestly can't say if it's actual croc or just croc-grain...I would have to look. But regardless, I switched it out for a similar pattern (in calf) immediately, and I do this for a lot of my watches. No intentions to sell, but it's nice to keep that OEM strap's virginity intact, just in case.

    Agree with you that that IWC made some interesting choices in the transition from Mark XV to XVI (and subsequently XVII, possibly even moreso), but I will say that the buffalo is a nice look on that piece.

    Someone also had posted a pic of their IWC pilot (think it was a XVI) on a black Maratac composite strap, and I thought that was a great combo. Can't recall if that was here on SF, or possibly another watch forum, but I quite liked it.
     
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    I haven't had a chance to read it but I plan to when I get a bit of time.

    Once you catch RO fever...there is no cure. The best you can hope for is a prescription from the doctor to explain to your wife/significant other why you need a RO!

    Only the top/cap is hexagonal. Personally, I think its a nice finishing touch, but not that practical on the chrono pushers. I find them a bit slick and a pain to grasp to unscrew. The "teethed" screw down pushers on Daytonas, Overseas and other watches are easier to screw/unscrew.


    Personally, I think its a beautiful watch. The finish greatly exceeds that of what you will get with a current Rolex Daytona. There simply is no comparison. As for the price...well you have to remember you are now dealing with a boat load of gold. Keep in mind a new SS Daytona is under $14,000 ...but in rose its $40,000. As for the AP in steel its about $24,000. So what you are really seeing is prices escalating by about $30K on each watch. In the mid 1990s a steel Daytona was about $4,000 and in gold it was $17,000. In the late 90s a RO chrono listed for $12,500 and in gold it was about $25,000...but you could get bigger discounts on the APs. Fast forward to huge price increase both because watch companies decided they could (even on steel models) and the huge jump in the price of gold in recent years and you now have gold watches that sell for crazy money. Even a basic Calatrava was a $9,500 watch (before huge discounts in the late 1990s you could buy new from ADs for about $6K)...now they are hovering around $30K.

    I'm not sure which model you are comparing to a Patek. Patek does some great movements...and maybe its blasphemy, but the 5980 is a hideous watch. Lumpy, and lacking the beauty, and svelte lines of the 5711 and original 3700, and a goofy subdial within a subdial that I find tough to read...oh and in RG I believe its list price was about $80K...so you pay another $25K for its inhouse movement. I'll gladly compare a 5711 to a 15202 Jumbo both in steel, because that is fair in terms of function, metal, and price...but if you want to talk chrono versions of each...the finish is fantastic on both, you don't get an inhouse movement on the RO Chrono (but its a lot less expensive) and its a far better looking chronograph.

    As an owner of a RO Jumbo (not a chrono) and an owner of a few Daytonas...I think each is a fantastic watch, with its own merits and its own fan base. Also don't forget, Rolex only has only had an inhouse movement since 2000, prior to that it used a heavily modified El Primero and prior to that a Valjoux 72. So back when they started, none of them used an inhouse movement. Beyond that...check the prices of the Rolex's without inhouse movements and you will find they often exceed those of the current models in the second hand market. In house movements are nice, but they only have so much value in the real world. I own and in house movement Daytona and a El Primero based Daytona and each are really nice...but I favor the old model over the new. I consider myself lucky to own examples from each brand. However, the quality of the RO greatly exceeds what you will find in a Daytona and I can see a premium for them over the current Daytona...but YMMV.
    Below is mid 90s Daytona Here is a newer model from just after I purchased it.
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    Gold is insanely soft. It shows hairlines from dress shirts in just a few days. I have a SS RO that I've worn as a daily wearer for 16 months and because I'm careful with it it still looks like new.
    I think there is room in a collection for ROs of different sizes. When shopping for ROs I considered 15300, the 15400, and the 39mm and 41mm chrono. As far as time only pieces....I favor the Jumbo. Its a classic based on the original specs. Everything about it is exceptional, and I greatly prefer the 2 hands, dark date wheel, dial, and the classic 2121 movement. I just felt for a time only, the 41 was nice...but the proportions seemed a bit off to me, at least on my wrist. While the chrono, I prefer in the 41. The subdials fill out the size better, it takes on a sportier feel than the 39 version. I always liked the 39 chrono, but something about it didn't work for me. I think the 41 Chrono would be my next choice for an AP if I were to ever choose a second RO.
    Stunning!!! Congrats and enjoy that beauty in good health! Way to ring in the New Year!!!
     
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    great stuff, dino. any thoughts though on the 15202 vs the 15400?
     
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    jesus, @hroi. fantastic
     
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    thank you everyone for your very kind comments. i'm super excited about this.

    in response to the request for more info - it is new, and purchased from an AD. the Lange 1 has been my grail primarily because of its aesthetics - it's the pinnacle of how i would define a simple, beautiful watch. i know that there are many reasons to buy a ALS, but if i'm completely honest with myself, that's the primary reason for me :happy:

    my initial plan was to acquire the JLC Master Geographic this holiday, and the Lange in (late) 2014. well, i walked into the AD and was immediately offered a very competitive price (equal to the internet gray market dealers) for it, so i pulled the trigger and thought i was done for 12 months. well, i accompanied my parents to the same store two weeks later and ran into the same SA. well, we got to chatting while my dad was trying on every watch in the place, and i told her that my grail watch was the Lange 1. "oh really," she says, and unlocks a display case and shows me this beauty, and punches up a number for me. the deal was even better (as a % of MSRP) than the JLC.

    so the rest is history...i still have some buyers remorse because this is by far the biggest impulse purchase i've made, but still very happy. besides, i did stick to the plan to get it in 2014, didn't i? :nodding:
     
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    Holy Bazinga...!

    Congrats!

     
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    I happily own and enjoy both chronos, a RO and Daytona (with a 4130 mvmt)

    The finish on the RO, especially the dial and bracelet, is certainly in a different class than the Daytona, no question. What it comes down to, in my view, is as a piece of jewelry, the AP wins. As a piece of horology, I don't think it does.

    I am familiar with what was going on back then, and as it happens I paid about 40% more for my Daytona than for my RO Chrono when I bought each (within about the same 18 month period) in the early 00s. This was very shortly after the 4130 mvmt was introduced. No regrets.

    Regards,



     
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    Some things are just meant to be, and you are presented a unique opportunity that just feels right, you should jump on it! Congrats again!
     
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