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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Newcomer

    Newcomer Senior member

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    Good point. I am not much of a fran of buying used though, for completely irrational reasons.

    But yes, we will certainly see. I have a feeling that Patek would not price something at a certain price if it did not think it would get it though.

    We need another Quartz revolution.
     


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    I get your point about buying pre-owned, and there are certainly risks associated with not going the AD route.

    However, if you're in love with discontinued models - as I am - sometimes buying from the secondary market / pre-owned is the only way to go.
     


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    And I don't think that would bother me as much. And I hate to say it... that is not why I don't like the pre-owned route. I just like new things. It is oh-so dumb. But there is something nice about knowing that every scratch, ding, whatever, was caused by you. I look at the nick I put into my watch while changing straps and think "next time, be more careful." If I have to look at the nick that some other person made, I cannot help but think "I wish the prior owner was not such a dumbass at changing straps!"

    I know it is a silly consideration, but I guess at the end of the day--this is an emotional hobby! Sometimes things just do not make sense.
     


  4. Dino944

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    Welcome back. Thanks for the kind words Cylon. I'm always appreciative and humbled by the thought of people taking the time to read my posts. For me this place has a true community feeling where we can reflect on our watches, what motivates us to choose one model or brand over another, share in the enjoyment of other SF members latest purchases, and more importantly not get too serious and have fun! I am really glad that my post made you think about what it is that you love about watches and how your background has helped you to choose particular pieces to commemorate special events. It was a great post...and it certainly made me think about my own collection. Any post that makes you think about your own watches, why you chose them, and how you see your collection developing is a great post. Thanks again for sharing what has influenced your choices. I should also thank DLjr and Belligero, as they have each made me give a great deal of thought to my watches & collecting.
    Thanks pal! [​IMG] Your posts are great and often crack me up!
    Love the title! I'm not sure what my wife will think of it? Again, I'm always happy when people find my posts helpful. Thanks Newcomer.
    Right back at you pal [​IMG]
     
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  5. no frills

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    I realized that the picture I chose above to highlight the "details in the baton markers" that I loved about the 3970 wasn't quite adequate. Here is a better picture:


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    Look carefully at those baton markers and check out how delightfully and carefully sculpted they are. The balance of each subdial, the lovely use of depth - there's a lot of complications here "crammed" into a 36mm case but trust me, on the wrist there is no problem telling the time and it does not look cluttered at all.

    Now, compare those details to the dial of the 5059:


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    (Picture taken by my friend FremStar when we were scouring the IWJG show in Brooklyn earlier this week)

    That's the same 36mm case and there is much to love. But compared to the ridges, sculpture and depth of the details of the 3970 dial the 5059 just looks a bit flat. That's why the guilloche dial of the 5159 is, for me, a bit of an improvement. mimo saw how dazzling it looks in person.

    But again, on the topic of pricing - a brand new 5159J retails for $96,600. Without disclosing the actual price I paid for my 3970J - a perpetual calendar chronograph, new old stock (never worn) - hey Newcomer, that should appeal to you! - open papers, completely authenticated by Patek - let's just say that it's around that much.

    So, a brand new 5159R perpetual calendar with a hinged back, or a perpetual calendar chronograph model "so iconic" that Patek took four to six times as long to design its replacement (the 5970) - Thierry Stern's words, not mine:

    One new model proved to be especially challenging to create – the 5970, a perpetual calendar chronograph. “The challenge is that the old model – the 3970 – is a kind of icon. Recreating such a watch is not easy because you approach it knowing that it will be almost impossible to do better.

    From: http://www.watchtime.com/featured/patek-philippes-thierry-stern-past-present-future/

    (Actually, I personally much prefer the 3970 but that's me)

    For this and a variety of reasons, the 3970 (in platinum, for this recent purchase) was my choice!
     
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    It ain't silly! I understand perfectly. That's why when I buy a pre-owned piece I have a loupe with me and I examine the heck out of that watch. And then I take it with me and have my trusted jeweler give the exterior a once-over. Then I take it to HSWA and make sure the movement looks solid. Three days of examination. I've returned plenty of pieces that were polished in ways I didn't quite like, but for which the polishing was basically invisible to the naked eye.

    We're seeking the best deal but also the best goddarn value for this emotional hobby of ours! [​IMG]
     


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    It's been a while since i been here i some more watch porn :)
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    Ps I can't help but notice the title of the thread changed!
     
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    This is the epitome of why fine watches should not be polished!

    There's nothing wrong with buying preowned or buying new. Things i'd buy preowned (of I could afford it): A bigger house. A Ferrari. A Patek. The Mona Lisa.
     
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    Bendy that you? [​IMG]
     


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    Yup VC - good to see you found your way here!
     
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    I have an Omega Seamaster Professional with a white dial and stainless bezel and I've grown tired of the standard stainless bracelet it came with. I'm thinking I'd like to change it up by putting a NATO strap on it but I'm not sure what color or pattern, any suggestions?


    Thanks.
     


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    Everything you said makes sense enough. But your bottom line, I'm sure, is indeed the bottom line. [​IMG]
     


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    AAAAHHHH! My eyes!




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    Ah, that's better. Needed some eyewash.
     


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    With a white dial you could do almost anything. Royal blue with thinner white stripes might be nice for the spring / summer.
     


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    NATO would look great in just about any color combination. So would blue croc.
     


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