The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Oh. That is still a little sporty for more formal business suits, but not too much and not a big deal. I would certainly be ok wearing it to the office, but would wear a cleaner, more elegant watch for something in a more formal setting.
     
  2. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior member

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    Thank you DINO - your insight and opinion much appreciated. Happy to return the favour if you need any advice on high end-shoes.

    As promised, the Montblanc I wore into London today..

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  3. Allez Allez

    Allez Allez Senior member

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    Scott - how about just a good old Rolex Datejust? I started out with that and I bet a lot of people do. It goes great with a suit and great with shorts.

    Some people will say its a sport watch or a tool watch and you shouldn't wear it with a suit. But I think that is a pretty narrow view.

    FWIW, I don't care for two tone watches. But that's just a personal preference.
     
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  4. Allez Allez

    Allez Allez Senior member

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    I was referring to Scott. But good tip.
     
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    Definitely the XL
     
  6. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    no its not. its not congruent. either you care or you dont, no one will arrest you.
     
  7. no frills

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    I generally agree with this statement, although you'll want to consider dial design, formality of the strap versus bracelet, the precious metal used to make the watch, the height of the watch (does it slip discreetly into your formal jacket's cuff?) and your own personal preferences.

    I like 36mm, and I think this particular watch of mine, for example, straddles the balance between formal wear (business suits, tuxedoes) and casual (weekend wear, shirt/jeans). Indeed, the case size is 36mm!


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    1. Dial design: the balance of various subdials given the perpetual calendar complication renders it for me quite appealing for formal wear, but the chronograph function gives it a "sporty" edge that goes well with casual wear.

    2. Formality of strap versus bracelet: Leather straps are pretty flexible for me, perfectly at home in formal settings but also acceptable for casual wear. This one is in black but I think if it came in brown that might work even better for casual wear - but maybe not for black tie events.

    3. Precious metal: This piece is made of platinum, which tends to fly under the radar (which I like). Depending on the finishing some people can't even distinguish it from stainless steel. That gives it the "sporty" edge for me that allows me to wear it with casual stuff - yellow gold might not go as well with ripped jeans. This one (for me) works just fine.

    4. Height of the watch: This is where the 13mm height of this 3970P can be hit or miss. It is arguable that the sub-9mm height of the Patek 3940 is better for formal wear. But the extra heft and height delivered by the chrono movement (I have yet to see an "ultra thin chronograph") appeals to me for casual wear, while the watch is just short enough to slip under my (formal) jacket's cuff. Any taller/thicker/meatier and I think I'd be uncomfortable pairing this with formal wear.

    5. Personal preference: Hey. At the end of the day the above reasons justify my use of this watch for both formal and casual wear. These are my reasons. It's perfectly fine if you disagree with me and if you think my reasoning is bullsh*t and my sense of style sucks.


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    Hey, I wear my perpetual calendar chronos with a beat up Uniqlo undershirt (two for $12.99 baby). Can't get more casual than that I suppose, unless I took my shirt off. Standard "Frills shot" (according to Newcomer) below. [​IMG]


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    I must say, the Omega Speedmaster is the best watch I've seen on a leather strap. it's better than on the OEM stainless steel bracelet. Rolex is just the opposite. It's better on the original braclet than on a nato or leather strap.
     
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    I tried to swing the Frills shot, but unfortunately, I think you have me beat on it :worship:

    I think you are correct in saying that your 3970P can play in between casual and formal wear. And it is a very interesting observation. The pushers really "casualize" the piece, but by no means would I say that it does not remain, at heart, a dressier watch.

    I have been thinking more and more about how complications relate to one another within a watch. I guess when Dino spoke about how he appreciates the history-design interplay (sorry for my crude, crude explanation), it got me thinking about the 'purity' of a watch.

    The perpetual calendar chronograph really is fascinating in that respect. It is amazing to think that it measures seconds, minutes, hours, days of the week, days of the month, phases of the moon, months, and the year. It really is a poetic set of complications. Similarly, that is one of the reasons I am very attracted to my MUT Moon. It tracks the days of the month, and the phases of the moon--both complications relate only to the month. In a similar vein, this is what bothers me about watches like the Omega Speedmaster Moonphase, or the Big Pilot Perpetual Calendar. In the case of the former, you are pairing arguably the most sedentary and poetic complications with the most erratic. In the case of the latter, you are taking a pilot's watch, which is all about being "of the moment," and placing a complication that is completely irrelevant to its primary purpose.

    One of the more interesting watches I have seen as of late has been the Habring2 Foudroyante with Secondes de Mort. What a fascinating combination!

    Just a couple of the evening thoughts.
     
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    If I bought that PP 3970P I couldn't afford to go to any formal events anymore... It would look great on my wrist as I sit at home eating ramen noodles and watching Wife Swap reruns, though :slayer:
     
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    that sounds just like my retirement plan when i refi my house to buy a high complication PP.
     
  13. DLJr

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    If I catch you at a black tie event and that watch isn't sitting beneath your shirt cuff I will tease you mercilessly Frills. Of course I will then oogle the watch.

    Am I only only one who perfers small, simple, "uncomplicated" watches for black tie?
     
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    Not at all! The only watch among mine that I ever wear with black tie rig is my Breguet Classique. Time only, small seconds at 6. Hand wound white gold on black croc. Small, simple and elegant. Even then, it feels a little wrong to wear a wristwatch. :embar:
     
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    If not small, then at least proportionate to the wearer, and not obviously large. I would certainly agree that a slim watch with no extraneous pushers, bezel or other jiggery-pokery, looks more formal. I'd also suggest a black leather or croc strap is most "dressy", or even a steel one. And going further, I don't think gold works with black tie. The black and white minimalism, I think, begs for platinum/white gold/silver. Considering black tie is evening wear, I'd consider a moonphase witty, but really a simple two or three hand Calatrava, Patrimony...maybe an ultra-thin JLC...would be just lovely.

    That said, I have none of those, but I haven't been to a black tie do in a while either. I don't drink, and find the sight of inebriated bankers in novelty waistcoats and nylon socks doing the Macarena, quite revolting. But I'll endure one again sooner or later I suppose...


    Edit: Just saw Flake's post above. Great minds...
     
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