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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Bill Dlwgosh

    Bill Dlwgosh Senior member

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    I plan on getting a Hamilton Intra Matic* for $600 from Jomashop before to long. As I like the looks of that watch at least as much as anything I've seen from Stowa, Frederique Constant, Who Ever in the next price bracket ... I'm not seeing the point in spending $1,500 on a watch as I don't expect a $1,500 watch to appreciate in value and I don't expect a $600 Hamilton to shit the bed any time soon. Granted, there's always the self satisfaction that goes along with knowing that you spent more on your Stowa than most of the guys running around in their Hamiltons and Tissots but again, I like the looks of the Hamilton better, so...

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  2. mimo

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    Frilly, you might well be the coolest man I know.
     
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    Well said. I dumped my Hamilton after one year at a small loss. The upside was that I became more interested in watches and understood better what I liked. Although Hamilton is great value for money (re: the argument above), it's about as vanilla as you can get in the watch world.
     
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    Plus one to what Dino said.

    Frills - that pic is your best yet. Excellent gray monochrome.
     
  5. RogerP

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    That's a nice piece Bill - I like the design very much. Hamilton has always done well for me over the years - I've owned maybe a half dozen. Solid reliability and some cool designs for not a lot of dough. I don't consider them to be vanilla in the least. There are a very broad range of styles on offer - something to please a wide variety of aesthetic preferences. And the prices are reasonable - you can certainly pay 8 or 9 k for watches with similar ETA-powered movements, but that is not a path I would recommend. (And yes, there is more to a watch than just the movement, but in the realm of mechanical watches there is no single component of greater importance).

    The Intramatic is a neat and clean retro design that appeals to me a whole bunch.

    Also, I would most certainly NOT recommend that someone new to watches immediately purchase the most expensive watch they can possibly afford. Unless, of course, they are the type of buyer that derives satisfaction primarily from brand ownership / bragging rights etc. In which case they should just buy a random Rolex and call it a day. [​IMG]
     
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    Hahah thanks mimo and stitchy!

    Well palette today is blue, with a dash of purple and gray thrown in.

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    Thanks for the replies, definitely more of the not sure if I will really enjoy the watch phase right now so will probably go for the Hamilton as it costs less than a pair of shoes. Any recs for the best place to get one?
     
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    I got my Hamilton through Amazon as it is a run of the mill Khaki auto and going through a B&M store, they would not budge too much on the price. I know it is tire-kicking to make some jewelry store employee let you try on watches then you buy somewhere else but I did not mind. Now when we bought my GMT we got it at an AD to start a relationship for the future.
     
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    Sounds like a good plan, but I'd encourage you to also try on some stuff from the next price range up: Ball/Oris (also eta movements), Alpina/Frederique Constant (in house movements), or maybe a vintage Rolex Oyster or Date which can be had for $2k or so if you look. I've owned all of those and a Hamilton. They all have their place in the world and each has given me much enjoyment.
     
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    Thanks for the recs, will take a look
     
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    jomashop.com
     
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    While I certainly wouldn't recommend buying a watch that breaks one's budget, I think the point of advice given above about going for the relatively more expensive piece is not about brand ownership or bragging rights. The precise wording was "the nicest watch you want and can afford"... to avoid the rather common situation of going for the less expensive piece now for the sake of "prudence," only to really secretly want the more expensive piece and therefore derive less satisfaction from the less expensive piece... and then sell the less expensive piece at a loss to gun for the piece they really wanted in the first place. The implicit assumption is that (a) you really want one specific piece versus another and (b) it happens to be more expensive than your other options. Good for you if you really, really, really want the cheaper option - even if you can afford the more expensive piece. But for many of us higher prices do tend to be correlated with more desirable pieces.

    The general theme seems to be - pricing aside - make sure you really want what you're buying before pulling the trigger so there are fewer second thoughts or chances of regret later.
     
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    And now, a public service announcement. The photographer Jaroslav Wieczorkiewicz came up with a novel concept: dressing models in very, very, very fast-moving milk and taking pictures like traditional 1940s pinups. What does that even mean, you ask? Here's an example:

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    Profile of his work here via SLR lounge.com:

    http://www.slrlounge.com/traditional-40s-pinup-photos-models-wearing-high-speed-milk

    The photographer's website here (warning: some photos are NSFW):

    http://aurumlight.com/

    Also, just so this isn't completely OT, here's a picture of a watch: one of three known examples of the Patek 1563, a split seconds chrono variation of the 1463. This piece pictured also has luminous Breguet numerals, which the other two supposedly does not have. So apparently this is pretty rare, and will go up for auction via Christie's this November. All info via Christie's/pic via Hodinkee:

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    Friend of mine went to a press event hosted by Christie's last Friday where the Hodinkee guys snapped these pics. He has a pretty neat wrist shot of this piece. I asked him if he was going to bid for it, but I think the $850,000 to $1,500,000 estimate is beyond his budget.
     
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    Except that the advice as worded almost assumes that less expensive watches are inherently less desirable and less likely to be a source of enjoyment. Which isn't necessarily the case. Buying a more expensive piece also generally a carries a greater potential loss on resale if you find you are not as enamored with it as you hoped to be. And a newer collector is far more likely to find that his tastes change more rapidly than a seasoned collector, and hence will be more likely to be in the position of re-selling an early purchase. How much money does one stand to lose on a $600 Hamilton? Surely a lot less than on a $6,000 Omega.

    All that said, I doubt anyone would dispute that making sure you really want the watch before you pull the trigger is the best way to go independent of price.
     
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    ^^ Interesting. I didn't interpret Dino's statement like that at all. Anyone else think that's what Dino was trying to say?
     
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    No, Roger my statement doesn't require one to assume any of what you have said. I never said to buy the most expensive piece... Please go and reread my post. Your attitude presumes you know me or what I meant. You don't know me nor are you correct in your interpretation of what I said. I will reply more fully when I have time.
     
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    I don't presume to know you. I did read your post. What I inferred from your post may or may not have been what you intended, but for that I have to rely on you. And as we agree, I do not know you.
     
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    And yet you somehow managed to extract from my post a suggestion that buying a watch that "breaks one's budget" had been advanced by anyone. Interesting indeed.
     
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    There are a bunch of online sources and Amazon is a good one. If you will consider buying used, try www.watchrecon.com - you can search by brand and often find a very solid deal. The Zenith I bought recently was located this way.
     
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    I actually issued that statement pretty independently from any post you or Dino may have issued. I try not to extract anything from your posts actually.
     
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