The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. johanm

    johanm Senior member

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    He might be referring to the PAM 318 scandal, where Panerai promised the exclusive and limited edition "OP XXIX" movement for their Brooklyn Bridge model, but when some customers opened up the solid case back they found this:

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    I.e., an unfinished stock Unitas movement.
     


  2. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    People seem to be missing this. The watch being sold is [claimed to be] an IWC pocket watch, recased in a steel wristwatch case. The seller says it is recased and doesn't claim it is an IWC case, though he claims the dial is original. I have no idea whether it is real or not, but I suspect it is what it claims to be. The one thing that does give me pause is the location of the seconds subdial, relative to the ground. On most pocket watches, they are in a straight line. On wristwatches, they are at a 90 degree angle. A recased pocket watch should still have the crown and sub-dial on a straight line. But I don't know enough to conclude that is is a fake.
     


  3. Moloch38

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    Glad you guys brought up the discussion on ladies watches. I'm also looking at an anniversary watch for the wife. I've looked at some of the smaller Rolex and Cartier Ballon Blue, but I've been drawn to the Omega mother of pearl Deville. She has a very small wrist and will want something without diamonds for daily wear. I don't want to of quartz, but I have been liking some of the MoP options. any suggestions around the $5k range?

    I know a very few handful of guys that wear B&R and Sinn watches down range and a Omega SMP and Rolex or two. I love that Sinn GMT. GMT is a huge function to have here that leaves me wearing my Suunto more often than not, but after multiple deployments my Marathon GSAR has been the best, especially with the tritium tubes. If it had a GMT hand it would be perfect (which is why I covet that Sinn!). They have always serviced my GSAR for free and replaced the bezel and crystal after it got jacked up during some high adventure last deployment, class act!
    If I could pick an all around watch I'd like the Omega SMP Apollo 15 40th Ann watch with the Red/White/Blue stripes on the outside of the dial. The SMP has always been a favorite and I'm a sucker for the patriotic color scheme.
     


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    Yep, that was all I meant :).

    You know I am a Panerai fan! I would love to pick up the 112, or potentially the Radiomir equivalent!
     


  5. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I may be wrong. The cal. 58 in the ebay watch was a pocket watch movement that DID have the crown at 3:00:
    And here is what a cal. 57 movement looked like.
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    Are you all still sure the ebay watch is a fake?
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  6. in stitches

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    OIC. id be PISSED.


    i admit, i dod not even read the whole thing. :embar:

    all solid points here. could very well be parts of a legit IWC. though in that case, i wouldnt want it anyways.
     


  7. NDND2012

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    The description states they have taken an "original" movement from an old pocket watch and put it in a "contemporary" case. There's maybe a few components that might have been from an IWC watch at some time and the rest has been fabricated by someone else and they've called it an IWC watch
     


  8. Cylon

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    They called it an IWC watch for search engine optimization on ebay. Thats what sellers on ebay do. I heard. once. on the internet. Once people actually read the description, its clear whats being sold.
     
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  9. Keith T

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    Agreed. That looks delicious.
     


  10. in stitches

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    yes, people do that all the time. in fact, it just makes it more annoying for people searching for things to have to further filter their results and scroll through more irrelevant crap. i run into that with my ebay involvement for work all the time. its a pretty big PIA.
     


  11. Dino944

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    Sure its for a search engine and yes the description says, movement from this, case from that, dial from whatever, etc. However, calling it an IWC wristwatch it creates the idea, probably among novices, that someone is buying an IWC watch.

    IMHO its a "Franken-watch" piece of junk. I'm only interested in watches that are original and produced by real watch companies, but if someone wants to buy it I wish them luck.
     


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    It is pretty absurd. Worth reading the threak on it. It is... extensive.
     


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    Meh, it pretty clearly states everything in the listing. It's a converted pocket watch; as to it's authenticity from what the listing claims to be original I can't speak to, but the listing makes it perfectly clear what it claims to be original and what it does not. Seems to me to be enough to make an informed decision.
     


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    I got this for my wife. It's a beautiful grey dial. No diamonds. Automatic. Much less than 5K with the right connections

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  15. rnguy001

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    Agree with you Dino. I can't say the guy's a scammer, but it seems like he's betting someone will see "IWC" and pull the trigger. Again, his description has the information so can't really blame him if the buyer isn't careful.

    But I agree, this watch is a franken-monster.. The Portofino/Portuguese styled dial with the Big Pilot crown? No thanks



     


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