The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. rnguy001

    rnguy001 Senior member

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    The dial is actually a really nice black, but on some angles looks blue due to the anti-reflective coating..

     


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    Nice looking SINN
     


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    I love it - and it has blue hands that don't show in the photo.

    It's a Stowa Antea 365 on mid brown croc strap with deployment buckle. 7" wrist.
     


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    Very nice!
     
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    That's really nice. Do you bother to keep the moonphase in synch or just let it run however?
     


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    The comparison I'd use regarding the Odets review is to a wealthy wine enthusiast reviewing a top-class IPA by Grand Cru Bordeaux criteria. He's an amateur horlogerie lover with a taste for hand finishing who didn't really have an appreciation of the fundamental difference between a machine-finished Rolex movement and a elaborately-decorated hand-finished movement; they're as distinct as wine and beer. Rolex is all about absolute precision of manufacture, which is not something that's easy to assess for an amateur and has nothing to do with decoration. That particualr 3000 movement was certainly rough-looking in spots (I have no idea where the marks on the balance weights would have come from, though) but it still had exemplary stability and positional error. They might not have been the most nicely-finished jewel seats, but that watch wouldn't have put in a performance like that if they weren't in precisely the right place.

    I think his review was well-intentioned, but when he says "ease of service" and "minimal parts count" like they're undesirable things, it's clear that his taste for complicated, highly-decorated movements makes him overlook the factors that make the machine-finished function-first movement so unbeatable in daily use. The engineering that goes into them is the best in the industry, and especially these days, there's nobody even similar in price who takes quality control and true Swiss manufacturing as seriously. To be fair, the 3000 was not exactly the best effort in Rolex's history, either, but it still delivers on the real-world criteria of reliability, accuracy and toughness.
     
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    Your choice of words a little harsh, but funny[​IMG]" Watch out for the lynch-mob"
     


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    No no, I'm a different species altogether; I don't have the money for four-figure watches, look at those who do in envy and thus like articles like this.
     


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    Nice analysis, I'd like to add to that one must also consider the sheer scale of Rolex's operation - this isn't some small operation with a low five or high four figure production figure a year, this is an industrial operation in every sense of the word with production approaching a million a year.

    Sure, it bites for those who bought a Rolex thinking/hoping that they were now part of an exclusive/rarefied club, but, well Rolex is what it is - a good and storied producer of fine tool watches with machine-made workhorse movements and sumptuous case finishing.
     


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    Nice analysis, I'd like to add to that one must also consider the sheer scale of Rolex's operation - this isn't some small operation with a low five or high four figure production figure a year, this is an industrial operation in every sense of the word with production approaching a million a year.

    Sure, it bites for those who bought a Rolex thinking/hoping that they were now part of an exclusive/rarefied club, but, well Rolex is what it is - a good and storied producer of fine tool watches with machine-made workhorse movements and sumptuous case finishing.[/quote]

    This is what i find the most sad about the whole status symbol thing that rolex has no become a part off. IMO most people who will buy a Rolex will do it as a way to show some form of prestige, and Rolex as i believe you mentioned earlier will catch a lot of flak especially from those "Rookie WIS" guys when it should be looked at for what it is: a manufacturer with a great history and near bulletproof watches that can be worn in almost every occasion on almost any part of the planet.
     


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    Personally, I love my Rolex Explorer 114270 with its 3130 movement. A good watch for me is one I don't have to think about. Besides, the idea of accurate time representation on your wrist "is a confidence game invented by the Swiss". I defy anyone to tell me which movie that quote came from. Years ago I used to wear a gold Rolex Submariner. While tending bar at First Avenue in MPLS during Prince's heyday an elderly gentleman came up to me and asked for the time. With much fanfare and exaggerated movement I pulled back my sleeve like a magician so all could see my "precious". In a radio announcers voice I told the old geezer that it was 11:15pm. He pulled back his sleeve also. On his wrist was a beaten and battered Timex W-1. With a smirk on his face he looked at me and said, "Yep, your right". Of course I want a Breguet, and several Patek's. A handmade Dufour would be nice too. But my Rolex just keeps working.[​IMG]
     
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    This is a great watch! Wear it well.

    I hate the term "tool watches," as most folks use it to support their decision for buying a Rolex, but if I want to get a sporty watch, this would be it. Wrist shots, please!
     


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    114270 for the win! Nice shot and thanks for sharing this story!
     


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    Dino, thanks for this. I haven't been collecting for very long, but I do find myself thinking about the right balance of variety and quantity. I want to make sure my pieces get decent wrist time, that I look forward to wearing them - otherwise I'd rather have them benefit someone else. But I also don't want to regret trading away an old love haha. Fortunately I think I made the right trades (traded in a couple of Calatravas for my perpetuals and I don't miss the Calatravas). You ended up getting another Speedy Pro after you let one go, right? Or am I mixing up stories now?

    Right now I feel at peace with my collection. I'm looking at a few chronographs but I don't feel a burning need to get one.
     
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    Great analysis of Walt's review. I always say no watch can be everything to everyone. Different brands or models suit different purposes. Its the same with clothing. One might wear a beautiful bespoke suit to a wedding or other nice event. But you aren't going to wear it to wash your car or do yard work. So there is a place in my wardrobe for nice suits and a place in my wardrobe for jeans and sneakers. By the same toke my VC Carree and Submariner were not designed for the same purposes or events and each has a place in my wardrobe.
     


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