The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Newcomer

    Newcomer Senior member

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    I like this one substantially more than the previous iteration, although it is not as quirky. I have a feeling that the old Master Calendar was not the hottest seller in the lineup. I really like it, but I think that if I were to spring for a Full Calendar, I would regret that I did not get an Annual Calendar. Nonetheless, it is a lovely looking watch. I think that the date wheel would likely drive me crazy, however. But that is just me! I find the pointers a little bit distracting :).

    All in all though, beautiful watch, and a great upgrade. I am glad that JLC returned to their roots on that one.
     
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    The nice thing is that in this version, while the dial retains it's three-dimensionality, the hour-minute hands 'jump out' at the viewer. In the last version, the RdM indicator and other sub-dials were competing with hour-minute hands for the viewers' attention, distracting from the core timekeeping function of the watch. In this version, the other complications are clearly sub-sidiary to the main timekeeping function, if that makes sense?

    Yes; and it's nice to see a return to traditional roots with this version. While I like the Master Compressor watches, etc. what I love JLC for are the Reversos and the more classically styled watches in the line-up.
     
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    I could not agree more. I think that the Reverso and MC line are JLC's bread and butter. And I agree with your assessment, the focus of the watch is really on the time--as it should be!

    I really don't think anything in the new line-up will tempt me away from the MUT Moon, however. I think that JLC kind of played it safe this year. The one watch that I really love is the Jubilee Ultra Thin. That watch is absolutely insane. I really wish that the majority of the MC line was manual rather than automatic, but I guess you cannot have everything you want!
     
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    The Reverso Grande date in stainless steel on a brown strap has got to be one of my all time favorite watches of any brand. Sad to say i never had the chance of owning one
     
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    Ive been underwhelmed by SIHH this year
     
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    That's my favorite new offering as well. Much better than the previous Master Calender which did not have a clean dial. I had the older 37mm MM and this is very similar but in a more modern size.
     
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    academe - thanks for those pics and the info. very cool.

    Lebowski10 - i used to know the Ball history, but i have forgotten it, have not read up on them in a long while. as said before, they are not known for their dress watches. the ones you posted were nice looking, and for the price point not bad at all. but i think you should look into longines, B&M and maybe some less expensive omegas as well. but if Ball is what you really desire after all your research is done, dont let the fact they are not super well known or forum loved, stop you. get what works for you. just my opinion.
     
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    I've seen and tried on a few Ball watches several years ago. The ones I tried on were sportier than what you are considering. I found them kind of clunky, not particulary impressive almost more of a styling exercise than a quality watch, and the gas tubes were a novelty that I think would wear quickly on me.

    I think if you like the watch and the price fits your budget, then either could be fine. I can understand your friend's discount making these watches very enticing. The ones you are considering are normal looking, and not goofy like some of their sportier pieces. As expected (in their price range) most of their watches use ETA movements, which are good solid workhoreses, but nothing exceptional.

    I'm not really sure one could describe a watch or brand as SF approved. We all have different tastes, budgets, and needs...so no watch can be everything to everyone. There are lots of top of the line brands that offer models I would never buy, great quality but not my taste. So SF approval should be taken with a grain of salt.

    However, I like Papa Knot's suggestion of looking at some vintage Omegas, Zeniths, or maybe some vintage Heuers, or Movados (not the quartz ones you see at a mall). You would get something different and probably much higher quality.
     
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    I'm a huge fan of AP (I love my RO) but I feel like this year's offerings while maybe a new use of matterials, seems like stuff we've seen before. The Offshore is a great model and a huge success for them, but after a while the various versions such as the Volcano, the Bumble Bee, Safari, Montoya, CF, all start to look the same to me. Yes some of the matterials are differnt, but mostly I find the most distinguishing feature is only what bright color they use to highlight the dial or strap.
     
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    Beautiful boots and a great watch!!!
    +1

    I really haven't seen anything new that I would add to my "Must haves" list or a new "Grail" watch.
     
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    Re: Ball watches

    Keep in mind that tritium tubes will lose their glow in a decade or so and and then be difficult to replace. Tritium tube watch hands and markers were originally designed for military issue wristwatches, particularly for aviators. Most of those were meant to be consumables with quartz movements and plastic cases.

    Meanwhile Luminova works forever.
     
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    Hey all,

    Thanks a lot for the input on the Ball Watches - I'm quite open to looking into a vintage omega/zenith...these can be found between $800-$1000? That sounds like a steal!

    Stitch/others - agreed on the SF Approved point, I wouldn't let that alone deter me. However, it is nice to know what the more style savvy gents think about the watch's appearance - this site got me onto Allen Edmonds shoes and now I'm hooked!

    I'm also pretty torn between a silver face vs a blue...leather vs bracket...tough calls
     
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    I am not entirely sure I agree. I think many of the great houses could - in some interpretations - be accussed of incrementalism; the other view is that these changes represent subtle evolutions of core and beloved designs. Lots of viewer subjectivity comes into play in either case. For example, I wasn't particularly thrilled by APs 'updated' ROs last year. I still believe that 39mm is probably the optimum case size, and don't really 'get' the new 37 and 41 case sizes. The only 'new' offering I really liked was the re-issued Jumbo, but still wouldn't buy one because its still too similar to my Dualtime for me to fork out the cash for it.

    I suppose my interest in the new Diver stems for the fact that I've come to think of it as the latest successor to the original RO, and have been keen to see how it evolved. The ceramic case is a nice addition to the range and will make it very different from a tactile and visual perspective.

    Actually have been wishing that AP would revise their Edward Piguet offerings. Have often felt that was the least developed line...
     
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    I do like the MUT Moon but the seconds hand bothers me for some reason. Would have preferred it with only hours, minutes, date and moon phases.
     
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    Lebowski10 - i would recommend a leather strap. much more versatile. easily goes from casual dressy. bracelet, not so much.
     
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