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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. ant702

    ant702 Senior member

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    Understood jeff[​IMG] I like these guys they are all very smart! Dont you think? I have learned some things, but in the process you gotta have fun! I think some have forgotton how! Or maybe I'm wrong and this thread is blowing off some steam (testosterone)! "Shake it up a bit," I do this at work as well (yes I punch a clock and occasionally 2)! Most important thing is that we all wake up in the morn.[​IMG] Now enuff of that boring crap, lets get back to the watches, agreed[​IMG]
     
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    OUTSANDING STATEMENT, BRAVO[​IMG]
     


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    Hi, ant702 - yes, it certainly felt like an end game watch to me when I got it. Any other piece seemed like it had drawbacks that would outweigh its appeal, whether it's because something about the aesthetics would not be quite right (I am attracted to the retrograde function of the 5059 but not by the thickness of the officer's case) or the price is prohibitive given my current resources (the 3970 or 5970 perpetual calendar chronograph has a "next step" appeal but I am not sure about the chronograph's addition to functionality or aesthetics for me, and it's a six figure piece).

    Everything about this piece was just right for me: slimness, amount and look of complications, price point (got it pre-loved).
     


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    Lol gotcha and agreed.
     


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    I havnt been keeping up with the price of precious metals! What do you think the price difference would have been if it where white gold? This maybe fruitless info for me, because its well above my pay grade! I think with most of my belongings + my soul wouldnt be adequate[​IMG] but I'm curious and I'm sure others are 2[​IMG]
     


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    The price of precious metals is one thing, but with gold currently where its at i think the main contributor to platinum timepieces being very expensive is the fact that watchmakers have to replace their tools after every 3 or so watches they make in platinum because of the nature of crafting the material.
     


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    There's precious metals, and then there's Patek and their eye-watering suggested retail prices for their timepieces:

    3940j is $56,900
    3940g is $59,500
    3940p is $71,300

    I traded in one of my Calatravas to acquire the 3940p, but despite this and the 3940p being pre-owned it still cost me a pretty chunk of change. So yeah the 3940p was kind of an end-game watch... For my wallet haha!
     


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    Welcome! Nice choice, hope to see more photos soon.
     


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    Welcome! Also emerged from lurking recently. Nice piece! Omega makes some fine chronographs, imho.
     


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    gold is actually presently trading higher than platinum is, per ounce, pure. the difference being that platinum watches are .950 plat and .050 other metals (occasionally .900/.100), and the gold in watched is usually .750 gold and .250 other metals (if its 18k, 14 would be .585/.415). but more importantly, as stated above, platinum is a much more difficult metal to work with, and as well, it is also an image thing.
     


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    Shocking, but interesting! There goes the Ole' 401[​IMG]
     


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    Exactly!
    I think you need to switch to decaf and go back and read my original post. As Jeff mentioned, there is nothing in my post about patents and who invented what. I simply said, Omega seems to follow Rolex's foot steps. You have overlooked that I said Omega makes some very good watches and they should stick to making things that show their own DNA.

    As for watch makers not laughing at what I wrote, well maybe the truth just isn't that funny. You seem worked up about my discussion of the colored bezels Sub LV vs Planet Ocean orange bezel, the PN Daytona style dials on Speedy Pros, and the Milguass and the New AT with dotted second hand (rather than lightning bolt) and the clearly "mimicked Oyster bracelet'" but in your post labeling me a Rolex brand junkie, you did not actually argue that I was wrong about Rolex making these items and then Omega following them. Not to mention, throwing an Oyster bracelet on that new antimagnetic AT ....really? How original !

    As for patents, most brands have several patents for a variety of things, but your explanation that everyone thought of it first but they didn't patent it... its just Rolex patented first ...please spare me the BS. Its like saying who cares that someone won the 100m dash at the Olympics...the sillver medalist gets there right after him. And the idea that Rolex got there first but others would have thought of it, with that line of thinking... who cares that Galileo and DaVinci had certain ideas...modern scientists would have come to the same conclusions eventually.

    Yes I do own a few Rolex watches. But before you label me a Rolex brand junkie, I have own several other brands and I have owned an Omega Seamaster. My Seamaster was fine but uninspiring, basic ETA movment, and eventually it just wasn't what I wanted. So I sold it to fund another watch. I probably would not buy another Seamaster. However, if you have read some of my other posts, I have regularly praised the Speedy Pro as that is one watch I would like to own. I also like the vintage Flightmaster of the 1970s...kind of intersting retro watch. In additon, my friend's experience with Omegas Seamaster waws far from perfect. Several years ago one of my best friends owned 2 Seamasters and had quality control problems with each. He bought an outgoing Seamaster and a few days after purchasing it noticed that there was a small feather floating around between the crystal and the dial...this added entertainment was at no extra cost! [​IMG] So my buddy brought it back and traded it toward a new generation Seamaster. Within six months he noticed the extension part of the bracelet clasp kept opening from the back. It went back, Omega replaced the bracelet and clasp twice for the same issue. He gave up and got a Speedy Pro...that ran perfectly. He mistakenly sold his Speedy pro when he fell for another watch...but several years later bought another Speedy Pro that he still has.

    If you are going to tell me Omega has a better movement, you need to be far more specific as to what watches "Your watchmaker" is comparing and why. In what way is he saying they are better? A generalization coming from some unknown watch maker doesn't mean much...are we talking a 1980s Rolex Sub to a 1980s Seamaster, a modern Daytona to a current Speedy Pro, vintage vs. current? Keep in mind that for many years Omega went the route of basically putting ordinary ETAs in most of their watches, which is acceptable but not impressive. In recent years Omega has gotten into making their own movements...and Rolex has made improvement to their own movements which were already made in house, so each comany stepped up its game. And lets be honest, most movements in Rolex or Omegas may be very good, but they are far from the standards used by PP, AP, ALS, VC, JLC or Piaget.

    Also before you label me as a Rolex junkie, perhaps you should also consider your own prejudice against the brand. Seems you prejudge those of us that have a Rolex and if I'm not mistaken I've seen you refer to them a Borlex and now you think buyers were duped. So you seem to wear your dislike maybe for the brand and/or owners on your sleeve. As for being duped with my Rolex watches, I could sell any of mine for a profit tomorrow...I couldn't say that about my experience with selling my Omega...nor could I say it about the 1st Speedy Pro my friend sold.

    As I've said in the past no one brand or watch can be everything to everyone. If we all agreed on brands & models to buy it would be a boring place. Maybe you and I will always disagree about brands, but I have enjoyed our debate.
     
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  13. ant702

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    I am deeply impressed that I could upset a guy I don't know through this pc about watches, Incredible! I really like most brands, hell, I even own digitals, this would probably be a crime to most on this thread! You really pay that much attention to me, shame on you, old boy! Now, the watch maker qoute was true the rest, hype, all hype, remember what I said; I say things sometimes absurd to generate dialogue! Not to get you vexed! Damn it dino, I think your a smart dude, dont give a hint your shallow! You'll be stressed all the time( while I'll be laughing)! SF isnt suppose to be work, ok, no more huge essays [​IMG] (truth is I bought &sold my last Rolex and 1 of my Omegas,years back, No more for me!) WOW, how long did this take to write, amazing, really!
     


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    Hi Ant,

    No stress for me. I write all week long and i enjoy it . When I get to write about watches for me it's pure fun. It took me about 30 minutes so no big deal.
     


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    Nice Breitling!

     


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