The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. johanm

    johanm Senior member

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    You're overthinking it. People wear large watches because...they're fun to wear. To the extent they express "masculinity" or whatever, they do it by signaling independence and liberation from conformity to obsolete fashion rules. Of course there's no excuse for an ugly watch, large or small.

    I do agree it's ridiculous when people extol the historical military associations of Panerai, IWC, etc. as if they're proud to pay homage to the bad guys in WWII.
     
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    OMG I had that on a strap almost 9yrs ago! Thats a capeland s right! It looks good on you[​IMG]
     


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    You have a point - thank you.

    I guess I should have mentioned that the preceding hour to my post had been spent on a popular Paneristi forum. Have you been to one? Utterly depressing place.
     
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    Ok where sorry your a chubby kid so you need a bigger watch, makes sense, case closed[​IMG]
     


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    This one doesn't want to come off.

    [​IMG]
     


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    Just to play Devil's Advocate here and I'm not trying to pick a fight. I love this thread due to the maturity of its contributors and ability to debate without name calling.

    Couldnt one argue that those who so vehemently (and vocally) dislike today's popular oversize watches do so simply because so many others (the unwashed masses) do like them and because they are in? Swimming against the stream is a clear indication of one's independence/superiority. You know the guy..."I much prefer their old stuff".

    For the record, I think 40mm is just about perfect for me. I sold off some 38-39mm pieces years ago because I thought them too small at the time. Rubbish in retrospect. I always liked the idea of a 44mm Panerai but they never felt right. I still long for the 42mm (and tall) 3713 Doppel which is probably as big as would be comfortable for me.
     


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    I personally prefer watches that wear a bit lighter, and go unnoticed until it is needed. They do however need to be easy enough to be read by someone who cannot see quite as good as he used to.

    However not everyone would agree, and I can certainly understand that. Besides it would be rather boring if everything were designed the same and conform to one standard.
     
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  8. Dino944

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    Not sure if I agree with the comparison about men of the 1950s/60s to modern men, although I did find it interesting and entertaining. With the exception of a few watches that hit the 42mm range, I'm not a fan of oversized or extra large watches. I did not grow up in the 1950s/60s...so while I find the Mad Men stereo type interesting, its not something I feel is missing from my life, nor is it something I'd have to compensate for...but then again I don't drive a mini-van.

    I agree and also like the Panerai design, and think you really nailed it with the idea of them being largely a PR triumph. I am not sure if I think IWC falls squarely into trying to replicate that success, but clearly there are many companies that jumped into the large watch arena with the hopes of capturing that type of success.

    +1 .
    [​IMG] Love the pocket watch theory!!!
    I agree with Chocsosa. A watch should compliment a persons appearance. Sadly, a large percentage of people dress and wear watches as though they do not own a mirror. Short of maybe an NFL linebacker, I've rarely seen anyone that could carry off wearing a 45mm+ watch. There are even average guys wearing 44mm that resemble little kids wearing a watch from their Dad and they need to grow into it. But its a free country and if someone wants to follow the trend to the point of looking silly they are free to do it.

    However, my pet peeve with extra large watches, is that so many are just an ordinary movement, from an ordinary company. Its frequently not from a great brand and it doesn't have complications that require the case be ridiculously large. If a person is going to wear something the size of a tuna can on their wrist, thereby drawing attention to themselves and their watch, it should be something from a very significant company, worthy of attention, and have a good reason for being so large, be it historic or an unusual/complicated movment that must be housed in an extra large case. To me, extra large/oversized watches which don't have any reason for being so large, are for posers caught up in the extra large watch trend.
     
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  9. HEPennypacker

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    Ah, arguments about subjective tastes. Everyone is right!

    Personally, I have a range of watches from 35mm - 45mm. Each satisfies a particular niche that I wished to fill. If I'm going to a weekend retreat with some partners at my firm, then I wear the Rolex. If it's just a regular weekend of eating/shopping/hanging out with friends, I wear the Panny. If it's just a regular work day, I'll probably strap on the Reverso. I have yet to see a watch that is perfect for all environments.

    I am always amused by how strongly people hold their watch size preferences, as if there is a true, objective "right" watch size. Probably better to argue about something somewhat objective, like movement quality (e.g., "Ugh, those ETA movements in those ___ watches certainly aren't worthy of such a large case." (Dino was sort of moving there)). But I suppose there's no fun in that :).
     
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  10. in stitches

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    thanks guys, much appreciated.

    YRR - dont frown at your seiko, enjoy it. im sure it will be the start of nice collection based on your interest in watches.

    ant - yes it is. got it from my wife when we got engaged, about 10.5 years ago.
     


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    I find that many excessively large watches are inherently more feminine than reasonably-sized ones, in that their jewelry and eyeball-attracting qualities are a high design priority, in most cases over comfort or having a case that's not mostly void space. Big flashy watches seem a bit needy to me, which is definitely not a trait I'd associate with traditional notions of masculinity. A watch will not make you appear to be tough and cool, no matter how tactical-ized, Navy-SEALS-logo-a-fied, Luftwaffe-flyed or RAV*-prized it is.

    Here's someone with big arms and wrists, in an advertisement that was presumably meant to imply that the oversized product is the more "manly" one. Which watch would you say looks better?

    [​IMG]

    *Russians/Arabs/Villains
     
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  12. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    re: watch size debate. this whole thigh made me groan. sorry guys.

    a persons watch, or anything they own, does not necessarily have to be a reflection of anything other than that they like the item so they bought it. small or large, watches can be nice and they can be ugly, the same watch can look nice on one person and dumb on the other. let people enjoy the things they chose to buy and not judge them for it. no one has to love every watch, but we dont need to make assumptions based of the ones we may not love.
     


  13. johanm

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    It's hard to generalize about what compliments the appearance of people of different age, physique, subculture, etc. This debate reminds me of conservatism vs modernity debates that occur in every corner of Styleforum. Slim vs full silhouette, hard vs soft shoulders, country vs city colors, etc... The list goes on, and everyone tries to support their argument with a priori principles, but ultimately people wear what they like and if they execute the details well they hopefully accomplish their goals in the context they live in.

    Living in Manhattan I see people of all sizes and shapes wear large watches all the time - especially Panerai and bulky dive watches. Many of them dress stylishly and their watches very much complement their energetic and sporty aura. For others, the watch plays a small role in their overall clumsy and awkward appearance. I also see some people who carry small watches with elegance, and others who just look like nerds.

    As a general point, watch aficionados often overemphasize, arbitrarily, the aesthetic values of prior generations. Not to discount the value of seeing which designs have endured over time vs which trends became outmoded, but there's a lot of "glory days" thinking that parallels how people think about "rules" for formal attire and leads people to end up drifting far away from the mainstream for very little benefit. Right now there are plenty of people alive who bought watches from the 50s-60s when they were in production and not collectible antiques. In the not so distant future that will change and the people who run the world will have arisen at a time when there was hardly any consensus on the "correct" type or size of watch to wear, or whether it makes sense to wear a watch in the first place. Tangentially I think it's funny when people speculate on the investment value of current production watches - as if the regard today's kids have for Rolex or the "Big 3" will in any way resemble the current auction trends.
     
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  14. rnguy001

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    killin' it

     


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    Large watch hate talk is so :deadhorse:

    It feels like 2003 all over again
     
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