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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Newcomer

    Newcomer Senior member

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    I am kind of with Stitchy in this regard--I love being able to tinker with my watches in the morning! I appreciate the anecdotal remarks on your Leman Timezone, I hear little about BP. I will keep the thread updated!


    Very interesting perspective. Personally, I like the roman numerals and the curved date hand on the new one, but I like the size, logo placement, and moon face on the previous version. It is a bit of a wash for me. For some reason, I prefer the balance of the new one to the old one, but wish it was a little smaller.

    And I kind of have the same feeling about the VM. I find it a bit stodgy, perhaps, whereas the JLC MUT Moon is a bit more refined, simplistic. However, I really appreciate the whimsical and quirky side of BP. Both appeal to me, albeit in very different ways.


    I feel the same way about BP and GP. In particular, GP, although I think that they shoot themselves in the foot with some of their designs *cough, seahawk.*


    I have to agree with that. JLC just puts out such a refined product. Although I worry that with Richemont at the helm, in the future they may start to compromise their aesthetic. Although I like the Master Compressor and the Navy Seals watches to an extent, I still think the "true" JLC is in their Master Control line. I just hope that they do not forget it. I think the problem with GP and BP is that they are so close in price to the watchmaking triumvirate. When I was looking at the BP last night, I could not help but think how close it was in pricing to a Lange Saxonia, and some rose gold offerings. And from what I have seen, BP is just not up to par in terms of finishing, at lease in regards to Lange, Patek, etc. Same thing with GP. I love the GP EOT, but at $33,000, I would much rather spring for a Lange 1.

    Just my 2c.
     
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    I probably use a watch to see the date as often as I do to see the time. Most days, my innate sense of about what time it is is good enough since I don't go to many meetings or have to catch many flights.

    The date window is certainly an aesthetic challenge but I look at it as a test of design skill rather than a instafail.
     
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    one thing i would love to do one day, is spend a month or 3 in the swiss mountains visiting all the manufactures and museums..... le sigh.


    yeah, its hard to put a finger on it, but they just end up being the watches that most people get as a 4th or 5th, not for your average guy out to just start his collection.

    also, like newcomer said, a lot of their offerings are on the steeper end.

    i love JLC. imo they make great watches and cover almost all price points and quality/finishing points.



    CONGRATS!!!!! :slayer:
     
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    Where did you send it? I have one that I wouldn't mind getting serviced.
     
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    I'm finding this a versatile watch:

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    looks nice
     
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    While typically I am not a fan of most Zeniths, that looks pretty cool.
     
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    we just bought a 1987 gmt master II. i need to find a way to buy its. its delicious.
     
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    +1 Cartier is probably the company that is most famous for its use of rectangular cases. There is a huge variety of styles and sizes (new and vintage) to suit almost anyone's taste.

    I agree 100%. Its absolutely rediculous how many nearly perfect designs are ruined by adding a date window to a dial. As of yet, none of my dress watches have a date.
    As for your Daytona issue, while I've heard of people wanting their birth year for a watch, trying to find one in good shape that comes up for sale from 1979 could be quite difficult. There are a few sources that regularly get manual wind Daytonas, but how long it would take them to get one from 1979 is anybody's guess. You could contact Jame Dowling, he is in England. However, you have to pick it up there or have a designated agent pick it up for you. Rolex has very extreme customs laws in the US and as such Mr. Dowling will not ship watches to the States. As for pricing, the time to have gotten one of these for a fair or good price has long gone. in the 1990s you could get a non-Paul Newman Dial for about $8,000. Now I regularly see average condition models in roughly the 24,000-28,000 range...whether a seller will give you a break depends on the seller. For true top quality example with box and papers expect to pay more than that. Check Paul Duggan's website , he is in Boston and he always has a few. He has a great reputation although I've never dealt with him. I'm very fussy about condition, so most of his Daytonas when I've seen them on line, they might be in very good shape for roughly 35 year old watches, but they just are not in a condition that would make me happy. If you are more concerned about year than condition, you might be able to get into a Daytona at the lower end of the average price range. Good luck.
    Great quality, but I've always had trouble getting excited about BP's designs. I find them a bit sterile. But if you like the design, its a very well made watch.
     
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    Hey guys!

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    Far nicer and more impressive than their current direction!
    Agree completely. For some reason, I'd just feel more comfortable spending money on a JLC the a GP, GO, or BP.
    I'm not saying wearing 2 watches at the same time looks great, but it was impressive to see both of those "in the wild." That was back in the day when many watch companies didn't have website, putting photos on the net was tougher, and your two best sources for seeing fine watches was your local watch shop or calling the company for a catalog.
    GP should probably get away from sports watches. The Seahawk is a mess, and WTF is with the Laureato? It started out as something like a RO, Nautilus, 222, Ingenuier, and it has morphed into some hideous cartoon version of its origial design. They should stick to dress watches. I've tried on the EOT in rose gold and its simply stunning. But when I heard the price, it just made me think that's Lange territory and I just wouldn't put that kind of money into a GP. In the under $20K range its an interesting option, but even then I'd be more likely to defer to JLC or Piaget.
    Basically a fashion watch with quartz movement. Nothing very significant about it. But if your gf/wife likes it thats what matters.
    Very hot watch!!!!
     
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    Good luck, keep us posted.
     
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    Very nice. Rarely does one find an in-house chronograph and annual calendar in a sub-$10,000 price segment. It does not look as lifeless as I though it did in photos. It actually looks very handsome, and versatile. A nice dress / sport watch. I think Zenith ought to start using a bigger movement, however, or smaller cases.
     
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    well, i defo post a pic when its ready for sale, and hopefully i will find a way to acquire it as well. dont nobody hold their breath tho.
     
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