The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. oisin

    oisin Senior member

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    speaking of the 15202... another visit to a watch store, this time in philadelphia. crossed the glashutte panomatic lunar off the list. attractive, but too thick and also a bit sterile for me. unfortunately fell in love with the 15202 when i put it on my wrist. just lovely. also very $$$ for me. [​IMG]

    Also saw the PP 5146 in platinum, which I far prefer because of the lack of arabic numerals, which I think suits the dial much better. It's too bad that only the platinum has that particular dial.
     


  2. in stitches

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    what is not to like?

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    i like the white gold too, the three arabic numerals dont bother me.

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    Maybe here I'm in the minority. However, I'm friendly with lots of collectors that think IWCs have become sterile in design, unattractive, caught up in the supersize trend, and offer little worth purchasing.

    No watch can be everything to everyone, but their offerings in the last 10 years are a disappointment to me. Years ago I wanted an IWC. Sadly, today there is nothing they currently make that I want to own.
     
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  4. Gauss17

    Gauss17 Senior member

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    I think IWC makes excellent pieces, but may be getting a bit caught up in the supersize trend, as you state.
     


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    rnguy001 Senior member

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    These are quite cool indeed


     


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    I just purchased my first Chinese watch not very long ago.

    I own Swiss and Japanese watches, but have never had a Chinese watch.

    I've stayed away from Chinese watches up until now because I've been kind of skeptical about quality. However, I've continued to hear good things about the higher end Chinese offerings, so I decided to take the plunge. (I am old enough to remember when "made in Japan" had a derogatory connotation, and that clearly has changed over the past several decades, so I'm willing to give the Chinese the benefit of the doubt.)

    For my first Chinese watch, I decided on a Seagull Tourbillon. I figured that the tourbillon model was likely to be among the highest quality Chinese watches available, so it would give me a good idea of the state of the art of Chinese watchmaking. Also, I don't really ever intend to buy a Swiss tourbillon, so this was a good chance to buy a tourbillon at a reasonable price. I've not really ever lusted after a tourbillon, but this seemed like the opportunity to get one.

    I've been pretty pleased with the watch so far. The dial is quite nicely done, and it has hands that are blued. The crystal is a very well done domed sapphire crystal. There is a crystal display back. The hand winding movement is not particularly fancy looking or decorated. However, it does look like quality, with blued screws and a portion of the tourbillon visible.

    The tourbillon is pretty cool. I actually like it quite a bit more than I thought I would. Watching it move and twist its way around the second hand marker is kind of mesmerizing. It's very steam punk, with its tiny gears and cogs all in motion.

    The watch seems to be keeping very good time. I don't really have any means of checking accuracy to the second, but after wearing it for 4 days, it's still running accurate to the minute, which is accurate enough for my purposes.

    The alligator band is nice, but the deployant clasp is not quite as comfortable as some I've used.

    Overall, I'm pretty happy with the watch. It's a very nice piece, and a good addition to my collection. I've got another Chinese watch on the way. Will post impressions of that one when I've had a chance to wear it a while.

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    The rose gold with a silver/white dial certainly has a warmer feel to it -- would pair well with my tweeds and flannels. The white gold would be more flexible, particularly with the black strap; for those days when I also need to put on a coat and tie. Given that I wear tweeds, flannels and earth tones more often, the rose gold might be get more use in the long-term...
     


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    Dino - as we've discussed before, the VCs - while certainly beautiful - seem overpriced and finishing is not as fine as the APs (IMHO).

    You also quite rightly point out that the 2121 used in the Extra Thin is the sibling of the VC 1120; weren't they both originally developed in a JLC-AP-VC joint venture? A lovely movement; great review on TimeZone about it?
     


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    I'm happy you are happy with your watch, but your review is the horological equivalent of a teenager being impressed with his first Beats headphone.
     


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    IWC has always had large watches. If anything, the "trend" found them, not the other way around. I am amused by the IWC hate in this thread and will be curious to see if it affects the SF groupthink. I remember a few years ago when the IWC Portuguese was the SF-approved watch (for instance, Foo had one at the time). In-house movement, beautiful dial, legitimate history. As for its being "not really dressy" and "not really sporty," the same could be said for any number of the tool watches that many here think pass for dress watches. Yet they are admired for their "versatility." In my mind, the Portuguese is much more versatile than a Panerai, Rolex Sub, or RO (not to say that those watches aren't also "beautiful" in their own right).

    But, of course, I might be biased as I just purchased an IWC--pics forthcoming :cool:
     


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    On the topic of smaller vintage IWCs, I humbly offer my 3531, the "kleine portugieser", on brown alligator strap.
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  13. Dino944

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    As for VCs, I was very disappointed to see that the current VC use of the 1120 (their caliber for AP's 2120) used a rotor that was only part gold and the part with the Maltese Cross was in steel with a bland finish. When they had previously used an 1120, often times their entire rotor was gold, it was beautifully decorated and shaped like their Maltese Cross and was also beautifully engraved.

    The movement you speak of was developed by JLC (of which AP owned 40% of up until a few years ago when it sold its interest). It is the only movement ever to be used by the Big 3 (PP, AP, and VC). It was never used in a JLC. Patek stopped using it in their Nautilus many years ago, but their original Nautilus with cal 28-255 is very collectible and valuable today. Also, unlike AP and VC which used calibers ending in some form of the number 20, PP's caliber based on the 920 did not end in a 20.

    I think the Jules Audemars Ultra thin is a beautiful piece. I'm sure if you got one you would really enjoy it.
     


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    This watch would be awesome if it had hands.
     


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