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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. rnguy001

    rnguy001 Senior member

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    Nice Hammie - deets? (size, movement, year you got it?)
     
  2. jbarwick

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    Size: 42mm
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    Seems like the watch has been running fast in recent months but not too worried about it. I think about changing the band sometimes but it is hard to beat brown leather. Maybe a Nato?

    The best part about it is that I did not compromise on the watch I wanted. Tried on a few different ones and when this landed on my wrist, I knew it was the one I'd buy. I like that the dial has a ring around the numbers that breaks it up a little bit.

    I assume it is tough to give up your first love when something better comes along but since this watch has little resale value I'll keep it around for a long while.
     
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  3. Dino944

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    Hi Mimo, Love the Crockett & Jones shoes. I have 2 pairs and they are great shoes for any occasion.

    As for RD, I like a few of them mostly as styling exercises. I find non-round dress watches very appealing, so their Sympathie and Monagasque lines interest me only because they are a step off the beaten path a bit. They movements are nice, but as overall watches I don't really have anything good or bad to say about them. They really have never made much of an impression on me.

    Its a brand that I've often struggled to understand. They originally wanted to stand out from other brands by being more exclusive and only making 28 pieces of each watch (now the exception could be the same watch made as 28 pieces in WG and 28 RG). RD (the man was quoted as saying he thought it would be terrible if 2 men on an airplane each had the same watch from his company, so he limited production). They chose an 8 at the end of however many pieces produced because 8 is a lucky number in many Asian cultures. However, I didn't see how they could be successful limiting production so drastically, when their name was barely out in the market place. Also as a small company doing so would affect their economies of scale if they constantly had to make changes because piece 28 or 88 was completed. I believe they have done away with this practice of limiting watches to 28 pieces, particularly now that they have been absorbed by Richemont.

    I've heard people compare RD's work to PP, AP, VC,...but Im not sure they are comparable and I just don't think for what an RD costs I would buy one. Nor do I think RD's quality exceeds those of other major companies. I tend to favor watches from established companies where I know parts will never be a problem, service will not be a problem, and the reputation of the brand is enough for the watch to retain a reasonable amount of value. I do like a few independents (granted with Richemont backing RD is less of an independent today), but I'm just not sure I could feel comfortable committing a good amount of money to an indy, when issues about parts or serviceability could come up years from now. I think people should buy what they like, but the offering of a smaller company or an indy should be so special that it justifies going that route. An acquaintance bought a tourbillon from an indy and he spent about $135,000. Its nice looking, and exclusive, supposedly something like only 5 were built as of the time he took delivery. However, I didn't see anything that would make me choose his watch over a tourbillon from Patek, AP, VC, or Lange, Piaget, or JLC. In addition, should he ever tire of it, its such an obscure brand I don't think he could get anything close to what this watch had cost him. If he bought from a major company his watch while less exclusive and made in a larger number (relatively speaking as its a tourbillon), it would be worth far more. Obviously, he bought what really made him smile, he likes the exclusivity, and that he had some input in the watch...however, I his purchase left me thinking he should have purchased something else. Just proof no watch can be everything to everyone.
     
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  4. mimo

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    Yes to all that! Thanks Dino; wise words as always.

    Stitchy, how much did that Sub go for? And do I still get the shoes just for asking?
     
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    4600.

    noap! sorry.
     
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    Glad it is back safely and running well Mimo - looking good, too.
     
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    Thanks Roger! It's scruffy and simple but has a lot of sentimental history. After three months and more of being dicked around by the new mega-large AD, during which time it was sent to Dubai, then Switzerland and back again with nothing done, I went to the old AD who fixed it within 24 hours. For under $40. I'm delighted and disgusted at the same time!
     
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    That is classic.
     
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    Good stuff, man!
     
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    Wow, thanks for the link ChicagoRon. Sorry for the late reply - I almost missed your post.

    That is one lovely piece, and given the amount of complications it houses - and its truly unique stature of being "a limited edition of one" - I'd be surprised if it just goes for $1 to $1.5 million given the interest in timepieces nowadays.

    And it's not just the fact that it houses some pretty bad a** complications: it's also the fact that this bad girl was made 115 years ago, and can still hold its own against some of the more complicated pieces currently being produced.
     
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    Thank you Scott, Frilly.

    Frills; if you'd like someone to proxy for you I'd be happy to go to the auction...expenses plus 1.5% is all. :)


    Back to big watches for a moment: a Panerai boutique has just opened where I live. Although I've always liked the way they look, I've had doubts about their wearability. I've never seen them in the flesh before (that's how backward my life is, eh?), until today. I was surprisingly taken with this:

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    A lot more comfortable and lighter to wear than I expected, even at 44mm and with that monster crown guard. And it's certainly got personality. Any thoughts on this Calibre 9001 movement? Having to look at the back (and move the rotor out of the way) strikes me as both silly and cool somehow. But one way or another, I liked it.
     
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    Sorry I have been at the beach for Mem Day ..... Hope you all had a nice one.

    I would ask for more along the 'reasonable' price line -- found out we have a rez at Wolfgang Puck's 'Cut' so that will likely be our biggest meal splurge.
     
  13. rnguy001

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    Mimo The 320 is a great watch. Of course as you know most purists prefer Panerai's hand wound versions and the cleaner dials. I've always been attracted to OP's automatic models (but I've a preference for autos with dates) I have the 312 and it fills in all the gaps for me. If you've never flirted with the idea of a large watch before, then the 320 is certainly a jump into the deep end. Unabashedly it is a LARGE watch, and wears every bit of the 44 mm. Extremely thick too. Will most likely not fit under cuffs (but most SF'ers would likely go with another watch for more formal occasions anyways) It's not a true 1950's case, rather a hybrid if you will. Has a semi-domed crystal which I personally like. Although built like a tank, the p9000 movement (i can't comment on the p9001), is not terribly accurate for me to be honest. I think the 320 makes a great watch for various casual occasions, and the ability to swap straps on it is a big plus. Still, definitely not for the faint of heart. Plus its price has done nothing but go up (like most other swiss watches), and discounts on new PAMs remain frustratingly rare, making it a rather poor VALUE IMO. But if you are someone who truly has your heart set on it, you wouldn't be disappointed. Just expect to pay more than other comparable brands/models.
     
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    A more sensible casual watch? ^^ Thanks for the Panerai 1.1 - most enlightening! Certainly it won't fit under my cuff (and not the double I was wearing in the pic, anyway), but you're right...this is a linen trousers and polo shirt, weekend laziness thing I suppose. As for pricing, you're right: RRP is $10k, discounts in ten second internet search found to $8k. But for that I'm thinking: wouldn't a Rolex GMT or Sub be more versatile, just as casual, and a couple of grand cheaper too?

    I guess you love Panerais or you don't. I'm not sure how useful they are if, like me, you only have a couple of watches and aren't about to go on a Frilly-esque spree. But after today I can say one thing: I get it. If I had a handful of nice dressier watches and maybe something more conventionally sporty (like your Speedy!), I could see space for something this fun. They're very charismatic, if not exactly classy. Like a purple Fiat 500 Abarth.
     
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    mimo - thats nice. buy it.

    rn - speedy looking good.
     
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    They are also rather addictive.
     
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    This is en route from Lucerne to me as of this morning...

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    I love their design. Really fantastic, IMO.
    Does that keep track of which months have 30 and which have 31 days And Feb) or does it always cycle through 31? Also, is the above the colors you got?
     
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    It is an annual calendar, so it only has to be reset on March 1. I got the colors in the picture with a brown strap and a dark gray strap. The dial in the pictures looks tan, but it is really Pantone Warm Gray 3C.
     
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