Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.
These are really great.
looking good yall
They also made leather travel clocks. I have one from 1936, a year before Jaeger and LeCoultre joined forces. It rings just like the Memovox.
Agreed, the Pasha chrono is a relatively cheap Piguet 1185 with the column wheel. But it was pegged as one of Cartier's higher-end offerings, not counting the CPC. I think parts of the watch itself are not finished as finely as I would like. Eg the crystal should be domed to give a better appearance, the steel ring between the bezel and crystal is very fragile, the bracelet should be bevelled like the RO and the clasp should not have the laser-engraved logo. I was the second owner after my father; we exchanged watches after the Fifty Fathoms Concept 2000 he gave me had the rubber ring surrounding the bezel just fall off!
Regarding the bracelet coming apart, it literally split into two somewhere in the middle, between the lugs and the clasp. The steel part securing the link actually broke. I sent it in to Cartier London and they fixed it for free, out of warranty, admitting it was their fault. Anyway I have never had any watches with bracelets ever break apart like that, not least on a supposedly prestigious marque's.
The RO bracelet is excellent, incredibly comfortable and sleek. The crown, however, is a pain to wind on the vintage model.
Yes I am currently based in Asia but do spend time in London often, so visit the Western European boutiques a lot. I can tell you that the service standards there are simply head and shoulders above those in Asia in general.
By competitors I meant the likes of Bulgari, Van Cleef, Tiffany, Boucheron, Piaget etc. My partner and I recently went jewellery shopping and a commodity-grade gold ring with some rubbish diamonds was priced at 15k USD. The equivalent at the others was much, much cheaper. The Cartier Fine Jewellery is even more ambitiously priced. On a sidenote, the feeling at the Bulgari boutique is decidely downmarket these days, maybe after their recent takeover. I preferred Van Cleef myself. Checked out their watches too.
Yes, at one point the Pasha was the high end of their what I call "Main stream" collection/ Non-CPCP. But it was still far less expensive than anything else with an 1185. Afterall, a person could easily buy a Pasha Chronograph on a strap which listed for $5,800, get 20% off and now they have a chrono with an 1185 for $4,640. As for the styling elements, I like the flat crystal (I'm used to it from other watches), and I like the bracelet with invisible clasp. I've heard of bezels coming off Rolex and your 50 Fathoms, and I've seen photos showing a ceramic bezel Sub, where the bezel was broken (I forget if the owner dropped it or hit it against something, either way it was accidental). Still, there is no excuse for a bracelet coming apart as you have described, thats just rediculous!
I've owned 2 ROs. 1 many years ago, a 36mm with subdial for day & date. Now I have the current 2012 Jumbo. The crown is a bit slippery, but other than that I love everything about it. When you look at the details and finish, you can see why it costs considerably more than a Pasha.
I agree, that Bvlgari is not what it once was, perhaps as you suggest a result of the take over. I really have very little exposure to Boucheron, other than a boutique in Europe some years ago. Ah, Piaget escaped me, but yes I'd say they are competitive. Also, I forgot about Chopard, although not all of their designs appel to me. Tiffany, I find to be a hollow shell of what it once was and that they moved down market to capture lots of sales with sterling silver merchandise. Van Cleef, is I think a slight step above Cartier and Chopard, as their stones are "F" in color or better, even on so small pieces. Cartier and Chopard will often use near colorless stones "G" in color for small pieces. However, I find Van Cleef is just as expensive as Cartier, sometimes more. I have seen their watches, but none really speak to me.
beautiful JLCs guys.
also, lame thread name change is lame.
However, it does have the advantage of allowing me to look at the thread whilst at work. I don't really want to have to explain to IT people why I was looking at something with the "p" word in it whilst at my desk and if I tried to explain that it involved watches, rather than wimmenz, they'd probably begin to think that I was very peculiar...
bring back the pr0n!!!!
It looks like many-a-thread have received the appreciation treatment. I agree with the fact that now I don't need to explain to people why I link watch and porn with one another.
lol, yes i know it has its advantages, and i knew it was only a matter of time before these changes were made.
as promised, better pics of the PAM0090 we bought.
also picked this up when i went to get the watch.
So, I took the plunge and made my first purchase off of ebay. I've heard horror stories and for the longest time never purchased anything off of ebay. I ran across this Vintage Omega off of ebay and I am skeptical. This is the watch here
Advertiser states its a 510 movement, with a 10k yellow gold filled, 17 jewel. he or she does not give an approximate age. Does this look legit to you guys?
@Stitchy... forgive my gaucheness but you "picked that up" while getting the watch? Holy jeez... isn't a 5ct like $40-$50K? That's a helluva rock to just pick up.... Lucky lady!!
@chocsosa... if you were skeptical why did you grab it? do you mind me asking how much? from the pix it appears to have taken a bit of a beating but seems genuine from what I can tell.
lol, i meant i picked it up from one of our offices, to bring it to a buyer. not a personal purchase, for work. we bought it a few weeks ago.
you were kinda close, that little rock is worth well over 100k.
paid about $250 for it.. I already know its a fixer upper, but I liked the simple design. I was not skeptical at first until I started doing research on the movement and being I cant tell what kind of Omega that it is, made it hard. Could not find anything out about the movement research wise so that made me doubt it after the fact. I know, not wise.
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