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sorry for noob question, but could you please elaborate more about 11-series vs. 12-series? What are the big differences?

its a small difference, but the bracelet is wider on the 12-series, which gives it more of a gradual taper from the lugs to the braclet on the 11-series, which I think keeps the proportions much closer to the 5-digit references.

In my opinion the 5-digit references (14060 and 16610) are the ideal Rolex sport watch shape

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This is an anti-@George Red post, but here goes it - recently, I've been giving a lot of thought to this "hobby". So, here goes it, in no particular order.
  1. First, is buying watches really a hobby? Or is this mere consumption that we pass off as a hobby? As everyone in this thread is well-aware, buying watches is an expensive venture. Really, it is nothing short of absurd. And, as fast as I dove back into this hobby (head-first), I've decided to take a little time now to evaluate my next steps - including what it means to be interested in watches. I enjoy reading about watches, but I will not be happy with just reading about watches. I will never be a collector - in fact, I have zero interest in creating a watch collection (i.e., various iterations of a vintage watch, or having some thread that runs through my collection). Rather, I prefer to buy what I like. Instead, at this point, I guess I am better classified as an enthusiast as opposed to a collector. And I will say this, I find that watches are great at augmenting my other interests - specifically, I love to have a watch that I can wear when I ski, I find that I enjoy associating certain watches with playing with the kiddo, etc.
  2. The whole rat-race of this hobby is kind of exhausting right now. I like my AD a lot, but the difficulty associated with acquiring in-demand pieces is sort of outrageous. I found myself thinking about a "purchase plan", where I acquired several not-too-desired pieces to get other pieces that I do want. Then I sat back and though, this is just silly! I am sure this is all temporary, but I can see how this can wear someone out after a few years. It is hard enough to save the money, but to not be able to purchase what you want is tiring. And this goes beyond just Patek and Rolex and AP. A lot of sought after watches, whether it be the Cartier Cloche, the VC Everest, etc., are next to impossible to acquire. I hope this is not a growing trend of catering to the 1% of the 1%.
  3. In purchasing the 5205G, I feel like I am free - now that I have accomplished this "goal", i.e., Patek-ownership, I feel a massive sense of relief. However, I still do not feel wholly content. And perhaps I should have known that. In terms of my next target, whenever that might be, I am exceedingly undecided. I find myself wavering constantly, and I have far too many items on my wish-list. Spent a few days lusting over the SBGY007; then I switched over to the VC 1921; and now, I'm back on an old flame, the Lange Up/Down. I have not purchased anything, but I kind of feel like a guy who is now divorced from his first wife, and wants to dip his toes in the water. Do I go for the cheap date, who will be a fun romp with little long-term staying power (the new Aquastar II)? Do I opt for the classy, self-made woman I will have to work for (the Up/Down)? Or, do I stay single, and maybe think about how I got to where I am.
 

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The three animating principles of our modern secular culture are consumerism, hedonism and narcissism. Buy whatever makes you feel good (about yourself) in the moment. When the effect wears off, as it tends to, buy something else. Small-timers have to sell occasionally during this process but not @George Red.
 

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I love how we’re having a discussion about consumerism on a forum where we post pics of $2000 shoes, $20k watches or otherwise talk about how much we want these things.

It’s like having a discussion about asceticism and self control while in the waiting room of a whorehouse.
 

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its a small difference, but the bracelet is wider on the 12-series, which gives it more of a gradual taper from the lugs to the braclet on the 11-series, which I think keeps the proportions much closer to the 5-digit references.

In my opinion the 5-digit references (14060 and 16610) are the ideal Rolex sport watch shape

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This is very helpful, thank you. Thank you all help.
I decided to sell submariner 114060. If anyone interested in, please let me know! It’s pre-owned, purchase date is April 2020, and full set.
 

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I love how we’re having a discussion about consumerism on a forum where we post pics of $2000 shoes, $20k watches or otherwise talk about how much we want these things.

It’s like having a discussion about asceticism and self control while in the waiting room of a whorehouse.
Well, to be fair, waiting in the room of a brothel demonstrates exemplary patience and self-control. Usually I just pick a room at random and barge in uninvited.
 

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Reminds me that I'm thinking about selling my Pam1312. Would love to get some takes on best platforms to sell on or should I just reach out to my AD and ask if they want to buy it back?
 

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