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Wow sucks about the Zenith. Good luck if you go the JLC route.

Unfortunately, there is always risk that a new watch will need regulation/adjustment. Even more unfortunately, service across Richemont and LVMH is fairly uniformly bad.

Ah, that's really a shame. I'm sure the consolidation of most watchmakers into large luxury groups has had great benefits for the bottom line through cost savings but I have to imagine the post-sales service experienced has largely suffered across the board from when they were independent. It seems like it may just be better to find a good independent servicer to handle maintenance than deal with most of the big luxury brands' shops.
 

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Ah, that's really a shame. I'm sure the consolidation of most watchmakers into large luxury groups has had great benefits for the bottom line through cost savings but I have to imagine the post-sales service experienced has largely suffered across the board from when they were independent. It seems like it may just be better to find a good independent servicer to handle maintenance than deal with most of the big luxury brands' shops.

Yes, exactly. Richemont, for example, now handles most servicing across all brands (with some exceptions for Lange, VC, etc.) at a single facility in Texas. Before 2010 or so, each brand handled service on its own. You can imagine how quality has trended since.
 

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Hate that it matters to me, but this new logo looks 100x better than the standard one and increases the watch’s appeal considerably.
 

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What do you all think of de Bethune? The designs remind me of L Leroy
 

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What do you all think of de Bethune? The designs remind me of L Leroy
Just looked at some images online. Not my style.

This watch, with an MSRP of $98,500 (!), looks to me like the product of a collaboration with Starfleet.

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think De Betune is really amazing. However everything they produce tends to be around 44mm and wear large (with one or two exceptions), and retail for about 100k. Amazing stuff, perhaps in 10 years time
 

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Just looked at some images online. Not my style.

This watch, with an MSRP of $98,500 (!), looks to me like the product of a collaboration with Starfleet.

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oh yeah. this is kind of pretty though:
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I will never know or care enough about watchmaking to prefer it to some abandoned L. Leroy relaunch attempt that looks very similar:
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