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Hey d4nimal,I get that you're an affiliate vendor here, but if you've spent time on this thread or seemed to care about watches enough not to talk like a superficial ad in the customer service royal "we," I think you'd know that this isn't the place for that post.
I think that's generally true of small independents. I can only imagine how long a Journe would take to service and how much it would cost. My experience with watch brands that are part of a large conglomerate--Blancpain and Glashutte Original--is that a service of an in-house movement can be completed rather expeditiously, perhaps due to greater resources.I would far rather have a watch with a reliable, time-tested movement that has a plentiful supply of spare parts and that pretty much any watchmaker can service or repair. The problem with in-house movements - particularly all of the ones that have been developed recently - is that you have no idea how well they will work in the long run, and if you want to have them maintained you will have to send them back to the relevant company's service centre, where they will probably keep the watch for six months and charge you an arm and a leg for a service or for spare parts.
Journe is actually pretty good on that front and bought themselves long term stability with the on-boarding of Chanel as a shareholder.I think that's generally true of small independents. I can only imagine how long a Journe would take to service and how much it would cost. My experience with watch brands that are part of a large conglomerate--Blancpain and Glashutte Original--is that a service of an in-house movement can be completed rather expeditiously, perhaps due to greater resources.
speaking of service, what's the regular timeline, my JLC is on its 4th year, nothing needs to be looked at, so I don't plan to check up until at least full 5~6 years?
This is my thought as well. Losing significant amounts of time each day is a sign that a service is necessary. I sent my GO in for service ten years after purchase even though it was keeping good time, however.Personally, I wouldn't even consider it until (a) timekeeping becomes compromised or (b) year 8 -10.
I think that it's due to various reasons.
One is market forces - consumers have been "educated" by Instagram, watch blogs and so on into thinking that a watch with an in-house movement is better and so this has pushed manufacturers to develop in-house movements in response to that (misguided) belief.
Another reason is the Swatch group - it owns ETA, which also owns Valjoux, and Swatch also owns Lemania (now called "Manufacture Breguet"). I don't know whether it ended up happening, but when Swatch bought ETA (which made a lot of movements, or ebauches, for other watch companies) there was a belief that Swatch would restrict the supply of ETA and other movements so as to guarantee that its own brands had sufficient movements. This pushed at least some watch companies to develop their own in-house movements so that they didn't have to worry about Swatch suddenly cutting off supply.
Personally, I don't really care about in-house movements. There are an awful lot of fantastic watches out there that have used movements from other companies, rather than in-house movements. Paul Newman's Rolex Daytona? Valjoux movement. Omega Speedmaster Professional? Lemania movement (also, coincidentally, used in some Vacheron-Constantin and other watches). Classic IWC Pilot watches? ETA movements. Certainly, many of these were not "off the shelf" movements - they were given additional treatment and finishing, but they were not in-house movements and they were not unique to those watches or those brands.
I would far rather have a watch with a reliable, time-tested movement that has a plentiful supply of spare parts and that pretty much any watchmaker can service or repair. The problem with in-house movements - particularly all of the ones that have been developed recently - is that you have no idea how well they will work in the long run, and if you want to have them maintained you will have to send them back to the relevant company's service centre, where they will probably keep the watch for six months and charge you an arm and a leg for a service or for spare parts.
Sorry- Sort of off topic- I pray every night that Longines reissue the Silver Arrow again. It’s such a beautiful timepiece.Not sure they would classify as great.
That IWC finally plugged the Portuguese with an in-house is hardly a news story - and 20-22(?) years of cashing in on an external movement! Kinda falls into the insult category. (IMO)
as for Longines and rado - iterations ontheme are hardly note worthy.
Guess, in short, let’s see how the players play-out.
self nominate for “negative nelly”
Tag Heuer Monaco Calibre 11 - does anyone owns this piece? I have been a fan of Monaco square shape and blue dial since 2003! Planning to get this prior March.