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The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre,

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mimo, Feb 12, 2016.

  1. steveoffice

    steveoffice Distinguished Member

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    well, medwed said this year, not 2010. so it remains to be seen :p
     

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    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    I have no idea how to get the time pinion to the center, but I think that is not the hard part. The hard part is adding hand that are above the movement (so they extend over the whole face) without adding an extra layer of thickness. So the route is to embed them in the crystal somehow in a way that the outside surface of the crystal doesn't move, but an interior layer or underside does, without compromising strength. I have no idea how to do that, but that is what I would try working on.
     

  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Hmmm... now you have me hooked. I'm going to try to think of a way that you could get hands (minutes and hours I assume) without adding any layers. I'm going to assume that there is no additional thinness to be gained (lost) in the existing layers.
     

  4. dopey

    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    This is it. Invent a rigid glass with a fluid inner layer. Or a glass that would maintain its rigidity even if it was sliced horizontally and the layers could slide independently.
     

  5. dopey

    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    The other approach is to paint the hands on the mechanism and have the whole mechanism rotate inside the case, but that 1. has been done (UN's The Freak) and 2. is a totally different design.
     

  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    The "Magick" models use a 2 layer mechanism, right, though essentially, for those, the hands are simply disks? No, this would need to be more inventive. You would not be able to simply make the crystal even thinner and then say, have 2 layers, wafering a liquid layer in between - you have to do something more innovative than that.

    I thought about painting the hands on the crystal and then having it move. Would that be something innovative, or just a variation on theme?
     

  7. dopey

    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    Right; the mystery models just use discs instead of hands so no savings in thickness. What we are trying to do is a riff on what Piaget did. they use the caseback as part of the movement. We want to use the crystal as part of the dial. So whatever you do, the crystal has to be strong enough to work as a crystal and still have some ability to rotate. So having the whole crystal rotate doesn't work because the rotating part would be exposed and caught on your shirt, etc. And you can't just have an extra layer because that would be too thick. So you need a protective crystal that is rigid and fixed on the outside but can move on the inside and is as thin as regular, minimal crystal. So I cote on inventing one with a liquid core.
     

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    Trying to sell a Timewalker GMT. Black with blue hints. Anyone looking in PM if interested! Nice watch in barely worn condition just never sees the light of day.
     

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    Post a pic, I'd love to see it
     

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    Why use hands at all? Just have 2 concentric discs with a pip painted on. The inner disc denotes hours and the outer disc denotes minutes. I would insert an hour track in between the discs and an hours track on the perimeter for reference. Not as easy to read as hands, but you get the full benefit of the diameter of the watch.

    And if you like Cartier, you can have the minute track printed in the wrong place to confuse people.
     

  11. dopey

    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    Because discs take as much height as hands. Right now the dial is offset and sunk so the hands are not above the dial. To move them to the center and have them cover the whole dial would add thickness without some way of using the crystal or some other idea.
     

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    10atm, quartz, Hirsch rubber... Finally got a dedicated sportwatch that has a unique case shape as well.

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    Since I'm wearing its brother I'll go with the JLC.

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    Bespoke handstitched suede. Problem is I forgot which watch this is supposed to go to :D

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    Nice tone.
     

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