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The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre,

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mimo, Feb 12, 2016.

  1. robw

    robw Senior Member

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    I think you can buy a simple i.e. no additional complication, Reverso in gold in your price range. I don't know if it's exactly like the other models you mentioned, but if it works for you, I think that would be a solid choice.


     


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    I would adore a Reverso with no complications, but assumed it would be above my range in gold. I will see what I can find, thanks!
     
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  3. bigbadbuff

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    Tried on a few Rolex models on today for the first time in a few years. My current daily wearer is the 116200 Datejust on Oyster, which I absolutely love. It does wear bigger than your average 36mm, is uber comfortable and just a perfect design IMO. Wearing it is undoubtedly influencing me, as you'll see below.

    Explorer 2, black dial- not bad but I feel like the hour hand is short (I've never seen anyone else say this so I guess it's me). Maybe a little too tool-ish for me.

    Explorer 1- a little underwhelming in person. Clean and simple but it's not calling to me like it once did.

    Submariner- man they beefed it up too much. I still have the no date 114060 on the list, but it does wear pretty large compared to my old 2004 Sub.

    Daytona- without a doubt the winner for me today. They only had a 2 tone but the size/comfort/overall aesthetic was killer. I still have yet to see a SS white/black dial in the flesh so I have to hold judgement til I do, but I like this in pictures better than the ceramic. Great balance of sporty and elegant.

    Dino, you've mentioned you wore the Daytona a lot for years, so I assume you think it works well for daily wearing? I'm used to PCLs and the inevitable scratches from the DJ but I really thought I'd go all brushed for the next watch. How would you compare to the BLNR for that purpose? The latter has grown on me in pics, but I think it might be more noticeable than I want, with the size and color pop.

    I live in a town with few Rolex dealers so I will likely never see a BLNR, stainless Daytona, etc. without travelling :(
     
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  4. Dino944

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    Hi,

    Yes, I did wear an all steel Daytona (the prior model 16520) as a daily wearer for about 5 years. It served me well and to be honest I beat the hell out of it, and as I've said here dozens of times it was the most accurate watch I've owned. I also have the current model 116520. If you don't mind PLCs, then you won't really have any issues with it, as it's a great watch with a top notch movement.

    I really love my BLNR, but if you don't like the modern Submariner, then you probably won't like the BLNR, as it shares the same beefed up case. The 116520 Daytona is one of the few models left that has had the same basic case since about 1989, when the prior 16520 was released.

    You mentioned you are used to PLCs and scratches, because of your experience with the DJ, but thinking you'd go for something with an all brushed finish. Then ask how the BLNR compares for that purpose. I am not quite sure what you are asking. If you are asking how it compares to hiding scratches when compared to a Daytona...its quite similar. Both have PLCs, and polished lugs, polished case sides, and all other surfaces are brushed. The only surface that will hide scratches better on the BLNR is the ceramic bezel insert. If I have not answered what your intended question was, please rephrase it and I will try to answer it.

    Both watches have their merits, and are as distinctly different from each other as they are from your DJ. I find the steel bezel of the Daytona (rather than the multi color GMT bezel) makes it a bit dressier if you want to wear one with a suit. If you don't mind the loss of a date on a watch, then this could be the watch for you. I really like my BLNR, which gives the date and a second timezone, which is handy if you do any traveling. I like it for casual or sort of business casual, but I haven't worn it with a suit. That being said, there are guys wearing black plastic watches with a suit, so if you wanted to wear it with a suit, it might not go quite as well as the Daytona...but it will look a hell of a lot better than a plastic watch. Again, as you did not care for the newer case of the modern Sub, I doubt you will like the BLNR case. You could always try on a all black bezel GMT just to be sure...as it shares the same case with the BLNR.

    Again, if I didn't quite answer the questions as you intended, please ask again and I will try to answer them.
    Wishing you luck! Here are some photos to consider.

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  5. scottcw

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    Thoughts on the merits / cons of these, which are all surprisingly in my budget.

    5513 Rolex Submariner (1.7M Serial #)

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    Omega "Ed White" Speedmaster

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    Heuer Carrera 45

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  6. robw

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    hope you forgive the unsolicited response. My 116520 Daytona (white dial) is a regular in my daily rotation. I wear it with suits all the time and while surely not a pure dress watch, it is fine for normal business/office settings IMO.

    As for the scratching and so forth, there really isn't much you can do about it. I generally am careful with my watches but some scratching is inevitable. I don't think it's a big deal. The watch is very comfortable and fits under pretty much any shirt cuff.

    I don't own the BLNR but I like it a lot and i don't think you can go wrong with it although the added bulk may be a factor.


     


  7. Keith T

    Keith T TWAT Master.

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    Three classics for sure.

    Looks like the 5513 has a rivet bracelet, which you may or may not like, compared to the 93150. I'd also like to see the hands match the markers just a little better myself. And the bevels may be over-polished. But hey....it's hard to go wrong with a two-line Sub, really. A little bit of patina and a few love marks is all part of the fun. Would you actually be wearing it in the water? (Just curious, and if so, definitely get the gaskets checked).

    And as for the two chronos, I think I personally would prefer the Speedy due to its larger size (are those replacement hands?). Those older cal. 321 models will probably continue to appreciate nicely as well. The last round of auctions seems to have increased vintage Omega values considerably, from what I've read online.

    (EDIT: always buy what you love! Don't think of watches as an investment, but a passion-- and then there's no financial disappointment!)

    But the Carrera's still sexy too. Just dying for a perforated strap. :slayer:

    Assuming movements are all in good condition, coming from reputable sellers, etc? Your call then.

    Which one of them really sings to you? None of those models are duds, IMO. All verifiable sports watch icons.
     
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    Trying to follow the discussion, but need some translation help here please!?
     


  9. ktown

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    PCL = Polished Center Link

    DJ = DateJust, a Rolex model

    Brushed is a type of finishing to the metal that looks like a "grain" on the surface. It hides scratches better and has a matte finish. Polished metal, on the other hand, is very shiny and shows scratches more easily. Thus, you'll mostly find tool/rugged watches with a brushed finish, and more delicate/dress watches with a polished finish. And many watches will contain both types of finishing within the same watch. The polished metal also adds a bit of bling factor because of its shine - it reflects light and lights your wrist up. Look for pics of a Rolex DateJust or BLNR and you'll see that these watches contain both brushed and polished elements.
     
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    ^ Great, thank you. My only thread-worthy watch (an Oysterquartz) seems to be all brushed, except for the bezel and the folding parts of the clasp. Even so, the bracelet has large plane surfaces which light up differentially at different angles, which makes it quite 'sparkly' considering it's brushed. Good to know I can scratch away at my leisure...
     


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    Hey guys. This is a bit of a boob wuestion so I thought I would ask here first.

    Am in Amsterdam next few days. Would like to buy my sister a watch - either an IWC pilot or maybe a Rolex (likely would just keep the Rolex myself!)

    How's the availability and pricing of these brands of watches in Amsterdam, including discounts and recommended dealers? I'm obviously looking to take advantage of the weak euro (I can get a 20-25% discount on IWCs in Hong Kong with hkg pricing usually - so would have to beat that).

    Thanks guys! I'm also open to recommendations about what to do in AMS generally :)
     


  12. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Boob questions are always welcome in this thread. Loving the autocorrect!

    I'm sure one of our Netherlands-based friends can help. One suggestion is that a lot of Dutch retailers list on Chrono24. You might be able to check their offers and contact some before you arrive.
     
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    @scottcw - The 5513 looks a little rough for my taste. While it is 2-line and meters first, the hands look rough and the pearl is missing. I would pass on this particular watch and look for one in better condition.
     


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    The Speedmaster Professional (and a vintage 300) are the only Omegas I like. Aesthetically, the moonwatch has the simplest no frills layout for a chrono. Not a fan of the Speedmaster (modern automatic), too busy for my liking.

    The moonwatch is a classic that can still be bought new. Much like walking in to your Porsche dealer today and getting a brand new 73 RS with warranty.
     


  15. P. Bateman

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    It's been three months since I tried one on and she's still calling my name. I'm feeling the pull.

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