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mebiuspower

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I bought my Submariner in London in 2000 and have never had it serviced. Lately the crown was a little hard to unscrew and I could feel a slight resistance when setting the watch. All this time (24 years!) it was running around +4 sec per day on average. Just accepted the estimate from my AD.

Not sure how the hands were scratched as the case was never opened but whatever.

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Accuracy is not an indication that the watch does or doesn't need service. The movement that haven't been serviced in 24 years is bone dry and causes the gears to grind and wear on the jewels.
 

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Alright, I was being cagey about it the other day, but I am a-go with the Mirage. Putting my money where my mouth is. Ended up with the "Sienna," which seems like the clear choice. I hope @Dino944 is not too triggered by the hands.

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Been pretty pleased with everything I have seen. Quality appears to be top notch.

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First completed model should be done soon, and I am on the edge of my seat.
New episode of Collector’s Gene Radio just dropped with Sylvain Berneron. My jealousy of your allocation continues to grow . . .
 

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Accuracy is not an indication that the watch does or doesn't need service. The movement that haven't been serviced in 24 years is bone dry and causes the gears to grind and wear on the jewels.
Yes, I totally waited too long. I’ll post the list of internal parts they replaced once I pick it up.
 

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Yes, I totally waited too long. I’ll post the list of internal parts they replaced once I pick it up.
Seems about the same price I paid for a service of my GMT master 2.

And a real crystal/glass replacement adds about about 1.5k, see the kids thread to learn how I know😅
 

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New episode of Collector’s Gene Radio just dropped with Sylvain Berneron. My jealousy of your allocation continues to grow . . .

I've read so many interviews with SB, and listened to so many podcasts, that I think I can just about respond on his behalf to many of the questions - however, I did learn that his 2024 watch is a stone-dial, 34mm Mirage - which I think will be very cool. Overall, I thought this was a really nice interview, although of course Cameron always does a great job. I believe I will hold out, however, for the 2025 watch (provided I like it, of course), which will be an annual calendar that uses a novel method of adjusting the day/date/month.

As more information, details, pictures, and videos roll out of the Mirage, I become increasingly convinced that I made a good call on this. I, an unequivocal small timer, have an allocation of the first year's production with Auro Montenaro, Laurent Picciotto, Roni Madhvani, Jeff Stein, Nadine Ghosn, etc. Kind of crazy, really. And, also kind of crazy, SB responds to any WhatsApp message within minutes, has great customer service, etc. Which is more than I can say about damn near any brand.

I think I am most impressed, on a go-forward basis, with SB's plan for the brand. I feel like a lot of independents, particularly the less-established ones, create a watch and then... just continue making that watch. Maybe add in a new color down the line. Maybe create a second watch. Etc. SB has indicated that he has a 12-year plan in place, one release per year, a total of 4 product lines (the Mirage being one of them), etc. He has his first employee, and is adding a second in September. In short, I think the brand will look more like FP Journe in terms of the catalogue a decade from now, and that is pretty darn exciting to me. Sometimes I feel like watch brands live on a completely different planet, but this guy really gets it. I am pretty convinced that SB will be in the same, or a similar, tier as Gerald Genta, Gilbert Albert, etc. before too long - but that may just be my bias.
 

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This one is for @am55 - this is a whole lot of watch for the price:

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Omega Male

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Flexing on a budget.
 

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This one is for @am55 - this is a whole lot of watch for the price:

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Attractive, but way north of $75,000 is a "whole lot of watch for the price?" Heavens, at that price they ought to throw in a new car with the watch. :D
 

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